A-ḫa-ti - Revision history

YoulaAzkarrula at 01:48, 14 May 2026

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WayneHorowitz at 09:22, 21 April 2026

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	''A-ḫa-ti'' (𒀀𒄩𒋾) is a Mesopotamian term for the planet Venus, most likely meaning 'sister.' as Venus is the planet of the goddess Inanna = Ištar. the sister of the male Sun and Moon-gods in Ancient Mesopotamian tradition.		''A-ḫa-ti'' (𒀀𒄩𒋾) is a Mesopotamian term for the planet Venus, most likely meaning 'sister.' as Venus is the planet of the goddess Inanna = Ištar. the sister of the male Sun and Moon-gods in Ancient Mesopotamian tradition.

	== Visibility & Appearance ==		== Visibility & Appearance ==

WayneHorowitz at 09:21, 21 April 2026

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	\| '''A Hittite Prayer to the Gods of the Night.'''		\| '''A Hittite Prayer to the Gods of the Night.'''
	* In the first place: <sup>mul</sup>''a-ḫa-ti'' [KUB IV, 47 r. 43; BPO 2, 2:1; Van der Toorn 1985, 129:43], see also (Kurtik a15) ''[[Aḫû]]''		* In the first place: <sup>mul</sup>''a-ḫa-ti'' [KUB IV, 47 r. 43; BPO 2, 2:1; Van der Toorn 1985, 129:43], see also (Kurtik a15) ''[[Aḫû]]''
	In this source, there are five terms (''a-ha-ti, ga-ga, dumuzi, ninkizida, šulpae'') and there are five star-like planets. Lambert 1987 ~~equals~~ them to (Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Mars, Jupiter).		In this source, there are five terms (''a-ha-ti, ga-ga, dumuzi, ninkizida, šulpae'') and there are five star-like planets. Lambert 1987 identifies them with (Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Mars, Jupiter).
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WayneHorowitz at 10:52, 9 April 2026

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	''A-ḫa-ti'' (𒀀𒄩𒋾) is a Mesopotamian term for the planet Venus.		''A-ḫa-ti'' (𒀀𒄩𒋾) is a Mesopotamian term for the planet Venus, most likely meaning 'sister.' as Venus is the planet of the goddess Inanna = Ištar. the sister of the male Sun and Moon-gods in Ancient Mesopotamian tradition.

	== Visibility & Appearance ==		== Visibility & Appearance ==

HermannHunger: /* Concordance, Etymology, History[1] */

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	=== Additional ===		=== Additional ===
	''' ''' "Venus (Ištar) can only be the first: ''a-ha-ti''. This, we suggest, is ''aḫati'' "sister (of)", rather than ''ahatti'' "outside" etc., since Ištar was sister of Šamaš, the sun, the most conspicuous heavenly body. Identification of the other three is uncertain. Antagal G 309 (apud CAD ṣalbatānu) identified Simut, an Elamite god of the netherworld (= Nergal: AfK 2 72 16) as ''Ṣalbatānu'', Mars. So it could be argued that Ningišzida in this list, being a Sumerian god of the netherworld, is Mars. Then since ''Dumuzi''(''d'') would be ''māru kīnu'' in Akkadian translation, ''Kayamānu'' (Saturn), being linguistically a fuller form of kfnu, might mean Dumuzi.		''' ''' "Venus (Ištar) can only be the first: ''a-ha-ti''. This, we suggest, is ''aḫati'' "sister (of)", rather than ''ahatti'' "outside" etc., since Ištar was sister of Šamaš, the sun, the most conspicuous heavenly body. Identification of the other three is uncertain. Antagal G 309 (apud CAD ṣalbatānu) identified Simut, an Elamite god of the netherworld (= Nergal: AfK 2 72 16) as ''Ṣalbatānu'', Mars. So it could be argued that Ningišzida in this list, being a Sumerian god of the netherworld, is Mars. Then since ''Dumuzi''(''d'') would be ''māru kīnu'' in Akkadian translation, ''Kayamānu'' (Saturn), being linguistically a fuller form of '''<big>kfnu</big>''', '''what is that??''' '''note that there were several typos in this passage!''' might mean Dumuzi.

	''' ''' Then since Kakka under his aliases Ninšubur, Ilabrat and Papsukkal became a vizier or messenger of all the gods, he could be Mercury because the Greek god equivalent to Mercury, Hermes, was an errand boy for the other gods."		''' ''' Then since Kakka under his aliases Ninšubur, Ilabrat and Papsukkal became a vizier or messenger of all the gods, he could be Mercury because the Greek god equivalent to Mercury, Hermes, was an errand boy for the other gods."

	~~'''''This whole passage makes little sense to me'''''~~

	== Historical Dictionaries ==		== Historical Dictionaries ==

HermannHunger: /* Concordance, Etymology, History[1] */

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	==Concordance, Etymology, History<ref>[[Mesopotamian (All Terms)\|Planetarium Babylonicum 2.0]], All Skies Encyclopaedia.</ref>==		==Concordance, Etymology, History<ref>[[Mesopotamian (All Terms)\|Planetarium Babylonicum 2.0]], All Skies Encyclopaedia.</ref>==
	= <sup>mul</sup>''Aḫātu'' "Sister"; an epithet of ~~Ishtar~~ as the planet Venus, who was considered the sister of the sun god ~~Shamash~~ [Lambert 1987, 95; Tallqvist 1938, 332-333].		= <sup>mul</sup>''Aḫātu'' "Sister"; an epithet of Ištar as the planet Venus, who was considered the sister of the sun god Šamaš [Lambert 1987, 95; Tallqvist 1938, 332-333].
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	\| '''A Hittite Prayer to the Gods of the Night.'''		\| '''A Hittite Prayer to the Gods of the Night.'''
	* In the first place: <sup>mul</sup>''a-ḫa-ti'' [KUB IV, 47 r. 43; BPO 2, 2:1; Van der Toorn 1985, 129:43], see also (Kurtik a15) ''[[Aḫû]]''		* In the first place: <sup>mul</sup>''a-ḫa-ti'' [KUB IV, 47 r. 43; BPO 2, 2:1; Van der Toorn 1985, 129:43], see also (Kurtik a15) ''[[Aḫû]]''
	In this source, there are five terms (''a-ha-ti, ga-ga, dumuzi, ninkizida, ~~shulpae~~'') and there are five star-like planets. Lambert 1987 equals them to (Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Mars, Jupiter).		In this source, there are five terms (''a-ha-ti, ga-ga, dumuzi, ninkizida, šulpae'') and there are five star-like planets. Lambert 1987 equals them to (Venus, Mercury, Saturn, Mars, Jupiter).
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	=== Additional ===		=== Additional ===
	''' ''' "Venus (~~Itar~~) can only be the first: ''a-ha-ti''. This, we suggest, is ''aḫati'' "sister (of)", rather than ''ahatti'' "outside" etc., since ~~Itar~~ was sister of ~~Samag~~, the sun, the most conspicuous heavenly body. Identification of the other three is uncertain. Antagal G 309 (apud CAD ~~salbatinu~~) identified Simut, an Elamite god of the netherworld (= Nergal: AfK 2 72 16) as ''~~Salbatanu~~'', Mars. So it could be argued that ~~Ningigzida~~ in this list, being a Sumerian god of the netherworld, is Mars. Then since ''Dumuzi''(''d'') would be ''~~maru kinu~~'' in Akkadian translation, ''~~Kayamanu~~'' (Saturn), being linguistically a fuller form of kfnu, might mean Dumuzi.		''' ''' "Venus (Ištar) can only be the first: ''a-ha-ti''. This, we suggest, is ''aḫati'' "sister (of)", rather than ''ahatti'' "outside" etc., since Ištar was sister of Šamaš, the sun, the most conspicuous heavenly body. Identification of the other three is uncertain. Antagal G 309 (apud CAD ṣalbatānu) identified Simut, an Elamite god of the netherworld (= Nergal: AfK 2 72 16) as ''Ṣalbatānu'', Mars. So it could be argued that Ningišzida in this list, being a Sumerian god of the netherworld, is Mars. Then since ''Dumuzi''(''d'') would be ''māru kīnu'' in Akkadian translation, ''Kayamānu'' (Saturn), being linguistically a fuller form of kfnu, might mean Dumuzi.

	''' ''' Then since Kakka under his aliases ~~Ningubur~~, Ilabrat and Papsukkal became a vizier or messenger of all the gods, he could be Mercury because the Greek god equivalent to Mercury, Hermes, was an errand boy for the other gods."		''' ''' Then since Kakka under his aliases Ninšubur, Ilabrat and Papsukkal became a vizier or messenger of all the gods, he could be Mercury because the Greek god equivalent to Mercury, Hermes, was an errand boy for the other gods."

			'''''This whole passage makes little sense to me'''''

	== Historical Dictionaries ==		== Historical Dictionaries ==

Sushoff at 16:08, 26 March 2026

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	{{DISPLAYTITLE:''A-ḫa-ti''}}		{{DISPLAYTITLE:''A-ḫa-ti''}}
	Authors: ~~Gennady Kurtik,~~ {{PAGEAUTHORS}}~~, Euin Choung Kim~~		Authors: {{PAGEAUTHORS}}
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Sushoff at 14:33, 22 January 2026

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	{{DISPLAYTITLE:''A-ḫa-ti''}}		{{DISPLAYTITLE:''A-ḫa-ti''}}
	Authors: Gennady E. Kurtik, {{PAGEAUTHORS}}		Authors: Gennady Kurtik, {{PAGEAUTHORS}}, Euin Choung Kim
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Sushoff at 06:53, 17 January 2026

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	{{DISPLAYTITLE:''A-ḫa-ti''}}		{{DISPLAYTITLE:''A-ḫa-ti''}}
			Authors: Gennady E. Kurtik, {{PAGEAUTHORS}}
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	''A-ḫa-ti'' (𒀀𒄩𒋾) is a Mesopotamian term for the planet Venus.		''A-ḫa-ti'' (𒀀𒄩𒋾) is a Mesopotamian term for the planet Venus.

Sushoff at 13:26, 12 December 2025

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	{{Template:Venus}}		{{Template:Venus}}

	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History<ref>[[Mesopotamian (All Terms)\|Planetarium Babylonicum 2.0]], All Skies Encyclopaedia.</ref>==
	~~=== Kurtik with Hilder~~, ~~Hoffmann, Horowitz, Kim =~~==
	= <sup>mul</sup>''Aḫātu'' "Sister"; an epithet of Ishtar as the planet Venus, who was considered the sister of the sun god Shamash [Lambert 1987, 95; Tallqvist 1938, 332-333].		= <sup>mul</sup>''Aḫātu'' "Sister"; an epithet of Ishtar as the planet Venus, who was considered the sister of the sun god Shamash [Lambert 1987, 95; Tallqvist 1938, 332-333].
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