Argo - Revision history

IanRidpath: /* Ptolemy's Almagest */ Added Almagest star total

2026-05-20T10:04:05Z

Ptolemy's Almagest: Added Almagest star total

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	\|ἀστέρες με, ὥν α’ μεγέθους ἂ, β’ ξ, ἡ ἱα, δ’ ιθ, εξ, ς’ α		\|ἀστέρες με, ὥν α’ μεγέθους ἂ, β’ ξ, ἡ ἱα, δ’ ιθ, εξ, ς’ α
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Sushoff at 11:39, 19 May 2026

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	[[Category: Almagest]]		[[Category: Almagest]]
	[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]]		[[Category:88 IAU-Constellations]]
	~~[[Category:4work]]~~

Sushoff at 11:38, 19 May 2026

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	Authors: {{PAGEAUTHORS}}		Authors: {{PAGEAUTHORS}}
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	[[File:Argo over time (smh 2024).gif\|alt=animated GIF for Argo~~\|thumb\|animated GIF~~ of the transformation of the constellation Argo over the course of the centuries from ancient Greek to modern depictions (map: Stellarium) ]]		[[File:Argo over time (smh 2024).gif\|alt=animated GIF for Argo of the transformation of the constellation Argo over the course of the centuries from ancient Greek to modern depictions (map: Stellarium) \|right\|366x366px]]
	Argo Navis (short: Argo) is one of the constellations of the Almagest star catalogue (137 CE) that became standardized by common usage of several cultures in the subsequent centuries. In the Early Modern Era, the constellation was changed and finally included in the set of constellations, globally defined by the IAU over the course of the 1920s.		Argo Navis (short: Argo) is one of the constellations of the Almagest star catalogue (137 CE) that became standardized by common usage of several cultures in the subsequent centuries. In the Early Modern Era, the constellation was changed and finally included in the set of constellations, globally defined by the IAU over the course of the 1920s.

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	== Splitting Argo up into three constellations ==		== Splitting Argo up into three constellations ==
			[[File:Argo over time (smh 2024).gif\|alt=animated GIF for Argo\|thumb\|animated GIF of the transformation of the constellation Argo over the course of the centuries from ancient Greek to modern depictions (map: Stellarium) ]]
	In 1755, Nicolas Louis de Lacaille divided Argo into the three modern constellations that occupy much of the same area: Carina (the keel), Puppis (the poop deck or stern), and Vela (the sails).		In 1755, Nicolas Louis de Lacaille divided Argo into the three modern constellations that occupy much of the same area: Carina (the keel), Puppis (the poop deck or stern), and Vela (the sails).

IanRidpath: Added Warburg link

2026-05-18T13:42:34Z

Added Warburg link

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	Since the Greek Argo myth, like the Babylonian constellation Ship and Noah's Ark, also goes back to a Sumerian flood myth, it is worth mentioning what this ark might have looked like. A cuneiform text was discovered in the British Museum in London that describes in great detail the appearance of this monstrous ship that saved the animal world. In the mid-2010s, the media reported on the reconstruction of this huge round river boat. This shape (without sails and mast) impressively proves that the Argo really only has the mythological background in common with the ark and neither its shape nor its place in the sky.		Since the Greek Argo myth, like the Babylonian constellation Ship and Noah's Ark, also goes back to a Sumerian flood myth, it is worth mentioning what this ark might have looked like. A cuneiform text was discovered in the British Museum in London that describes in great detail the appearance of this monstrous ship that saved the animal world. In the mid-2010s, the media reported on the reconstruction of this huge round river boat. This shape (without sails and mast) impressively proves that the Argo really only has the mythological background in common with the ark and neither its shape nor its place in the sky.

			== Weblinks ==

			*[https://iconographic.warburg.sas.ac.uk/category/vpc-taxonomy-017083 Warburg Institute Iconographic Database – Argo]

	==References==		==References==

YoulaAzkarrula at 23:43, 15 May 2026

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	* Ian Ridpath's website ([http://ianridpath.com/startales/argo.html Argo], [http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/argo2.html Argo_2])		* Ian Ridpath's website ([http://ianridpath.com/startales/argo.html Argo], [http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/argo2.html Argo_2])

			[[Category:Asterism]] [[Category:Constellation]]
	[[Category: Eurasia]]		[[Category: Eurasia]]
	[[Category: European]]		[[Category: European]]

Sushoff: /* Setting (Lib II Cap VI §10) */

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Setting (Lib II Cap VI §10)

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	====== Setting (Lib II ~~Cap VI §10~~) ======		====== Setting (Lib III Cap II §14) ======
	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
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	\|		\|Ari 16
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	\|		\|the brightest and southernmost of those in the rudder, also called [[Canopus]]
	\|		\|the northern one of those in the middle of the mast
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	\| colspan="4" \|~~2 2/3~~ hours = ~~160~~ min = ~~40°~~		\| colspan="4" \|5 hours = 300 min = 75°
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Sushoff: /* Hipparchus */

2026-02-27T13:41:51Z

Hipparchus

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	===== Hipparchus =====		===== Hipparchus =====

	====== Rising (Lib II Cap ~~V §10~~) ======		====== Rising (Lib III Cap I §14) ======
	<blockquote>The Rising of ...</blockquote>		<blockquote>The Rising of ...</blockquote>
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	\|star		\|star
	\|		\|the one under the tip of the tail of the Great Dog, a triple star
	\|		\|the southernmost [and] bright one at the cut-off of the vessel
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	\|-		\|-
	\|duration		\|duration
	\| colspan="4" \|2 1/8 hours = ~~127.5~~ min = ~~31 7/8~~ degree		\| colspan="4" \|4 2/3 hours = 280 min = 70 degree
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Sushoff at 20:15, 26 February 2026

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 Yet, the Babylonian uranology does contain a constellation of a ship ([[MA2.GUR8|MA<sub>2</sub>.GUR<sub>8</sub>]]) or rather a boat but this is at the opposite site of the sky, frequently identified with the stars in the modern constellations [[Sagittarius]] (Sgr), [[Corona Australis]] (CrA) and [[Capricornus]] (Cap, or only CrA). Some scholars think that The Ship (now called Argo) in the Greek culture is halved and sails backwards through the sky because of hypothetical roots in the Epic of Gilgamesh. However, this scholarly suggestions lacks evidence.
-=== Aratus ===
+=== Origin of the Constellation ===
 <blockquote>
 Close to the great Dog’s tail is Argo towed stern first. Its course is not that of a ship proceeding on its normal business, but its movement is backward-turned, like that of real [345] ships when the sailors have already turned the stern about on entering harbour: all the crew quickly back water, and the ship surging astern makes fast to the land. So this Argo of Jason is towed stern first. Dark and starless from the prow as far as the actual mast she goes, but the rest is all bright. [351] The steering-oar is detached and set fast under the Dog’s hind legs as it runs ahead. (Kidd 1997)</blockquote>
-=== Other names ===
+===== Other names =====
 ''Ratis'' (Manilius I, 623 and 694; Germanicus 622 and 683), ''Cymba'' (Avienus 757), ''Carina'' (Germanicus 374; Avienus 808), ''Puppis'' (Cic. Arat. 34; 389)
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 In his 1768 ''Coelum Australe Stelliferum'', Lacaille divided the more than 160 stars in the constellation into the regions ''Argûs in carina'' (Carina, the keel), ''Argûs in puppi'' (Puppis, the stern), and ''Argûs in velis'' (Vela, the sails).
 ==References==

Sushoff at 20:10, 26 February 2026

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	Argo Navis (short: Argo) is one of the constellations of the Almagest star catalogue (137 CE) that became standardized by common usage of several cultures in the subsequent centuries. In the Early Modern Era, the constellation was changed and finally included in the set of constellations, globally defined by the IAU over the course of the 1920s.		Argo Navis (short: Argo) is one of the constellations of the Almagest star catalogue (137 CE) that became standardized by common usage of several cultures in the subsequent centuries. In the Early Modern Era, the constellation was changed and finally included in the set of constellations, globally defined by the IAU over the course of the 1920s.

	==History ~~of Argo~~==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
	There is no Babylonian predecessor at the place of this Greek constellation. In the place of the Greek Argo, the Babylonian uranology recognizes the constellations of the Harrow and the Asterism of Eridu.		There is no Babylonian predecessor at the place of this Greek constellation.<ref>Hoffmann, Susanne M. Wie der Löwe an den Himmel kam. Franckh Kosmos Verlag, Stuttgart 2021</ref> In the place of the Greek Argo, the Babylonian uranology recognizes the constellations of the Harrow ([[GAN2.UR3\|<sup>giš</sup>GAN<sub>2</sub>.UR<sub>3</sub>]], ''[[GAN2.UR3\|Maškakātu]]'') and the Asterism of Eridu (''[[Eridu]]''[[Eridu\|<sup>ki</sup>]]).

	Yet, the Babylonian uranology does contain a constellation of a ship or rather a boat but this is at the opposite site of the sky, frequently identified with the stars in the modern constellations Sgr, CrA and Cap (or only CrA). Some scholars think that The Ship (now called Argo) in the Greek culture is halved and sails backwards through the sky because of hypothetical roots in the Epic of Gilgamesh. However, this scholarly suggestions lacks evidence.		Yet, the Babylonian uranology does contain a constellation of a ship ([[MA2.GUR8\|MA<sub>2</sub>.GUR<sub>8</sub>]]) or rather a boat but this is at the opposite site of the sky, frequently identified with the stars in the modern constellations [[Sagittarius]] (Sgr), [[Corona Australis]] (CrA) and [[Capricornus]] (Cap, or only CrA). Some scholars think that The Ship (now called Argo) in the Greek culture is halved and sails backwards through the sky because of hypothetical roots in the Epic of Gilgamesh. However, this scholarly suggestions lacks evidence.

	=== Aratus ===		=== Aratus ===

Sushoff: /* Hipparchus */

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Hipparchus

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	===== Hipparchus =====		===== Hipparchus =====

			====== Rising (Lib II Cap V §10) ======
			<blockquote>The Rising of ...</blockquote>
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			\| colspan="4" \|2 1/8 hours = 127.5 min = 31 7/8 degree
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			====== Setting (Lib II Cap VI §10) ======
			{\| class="wikitable"
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			\| colspan="4" \|2 2/3 hours = 160 min = 40°
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			====== Stars Mentioned ======
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			!
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			!German
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			\|Lib II Cap V §10
			\|rising, east, first
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			\|Lib II Cap V §10
			\|rising, east, last
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			\|Lib II Cap VI §2
			\|setting CrB, south, last
			\|Psc 13.5
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			\|Lib II Cap VI §13
			\|setting Aql, south, first
			\|Ari 2
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			\|Lib III Cap I §9
			\|rising Ori, south, last
			\|Psc 13
			\|}

	===== Hyginus, Astronomica =====		===== Hyginus, Astronomica =====