Kenemu - Revision history

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IAU WGSN star name discussion

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	== IAU WGSN star name discussion ==		== IAU WGSN star name discussion ==
	The name was proposed to WGSN in 2025. As Kenemu means something as "crew", we are not sure if it would be appropriate for a single star. Juan Belmonte suggests to look for any pair of closing stars or a star which is multiple (not to the naked eye) in the area east of Kaus Australis, as in that case, it may suit. Yet, Belmonte and Lull (2023) and Lull (2018) both identify ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr at 3.93 mag in V.		The name was proposed to WGSN in 2025. As Kenemu means something as "crew", we are not sure if it would be appropriate for a single star. Juan Belmonte suggests to look for any pair of closing stars or a star which is multiple (not to the naked eye) in the area east of Kaus Australis, as in that case, it may suit. Yet, Belmonte and Lull (2023) and Lull (2018) both identify ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr at 3.93 mag in V.

			In 2026, the name "Kenemu" was proposed for the star ρ1 Sgr (Rho1 Sagittarii, 44 Sgr, HR 7340, HD 181577, HIP 95168), a spectral type A9IV star with apparent magnitude V=3.92 that lies 40 parsecs away. The star is a Delta Scuti variable star that varies at the ~0.04 magnitude level on a timescale of ~1.2 hours. The star has a mass approximately 1.9x that of the Sun, and a luminosity of approximately 31x the Sun, placing it about ~1.5 magnitudes brighter than the main sequence, and making it a post-main sequence star.

	== Weblinks ==		== Weblinks ==

	* ~~{{NAMESPACE}}~~		* https://simbad.cds.unistra.fr/simbad/sim-id?Ident=rho01+Sgr

	== References ==		== References ==

Sushoff: /* IAU WGSN star name discussion */

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IAU WGSN star name discussion

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	[[File:20182AuOrLull constWia Boat+Decans Karakhamun ElenaPischikova+MiguelAMolinero.jpeg\|thumb\|Boat and Decans in tomb of Karakhamun (CC BY Elena Pischikova and Miguel A. Molinero, in Lull 2018).]]		[[File:20182AuOrLull constWia Boat+Decans Karakhamun ElenaPischikova+MiguelAMolinero.jpeg\|thumb\|Boat and Decans in tomb of Karakhamun (CC BY Elena Pischikova and Miguel A. Molinero, in Lull 2018).]]
	Kenemu (''knmw''), Crew, is an Egyptian constellation of three stars ρ Sgr - 44 Sgr.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> (Stars of) Kenmu, 17th decan in Egyptian astral science, has its heliacal rise in month Peret, represented by a small group of stars around ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr.		Kenemu (''knmw''), Crew, is an Egyptian constellation of three stars ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr = 44 Sgr.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> (Stars of) Kenmu, 17th decan in Egyptian astral science, has its heliacal rise in month Peret, represented by a small group of stars around ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr.

	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
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	Kenemu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.		Kenemu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.
	[[File:Lull2018 identDecansWja.png\|thumb\|identifications of Decans in Lull (2018)]]		[[File:Lull2018 identDecansWja.png\|thumb\|identifications of Decans in Lull (2018)]]
	Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Knmw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of ''Knmw'' with the area between the stars ρ Sgr ~~and~~ 44 Sgr.		Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Knmw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of ''Knmw'' with the area between the stars ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr (44 Sgr).

	Previous Identification: Leitz (1995, 91)<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> reads ''knm'' and translates The Dark One, which he interprets as a reference to fainter stars. His identification with λ Aql is refuted by Belmonte and Lull (2023),<ref name=":1">Belmonte, Juan Antonio and Lull, José (2023). Astronomy of Ancient Egypt - A Cultural Perspective, Springer</ref> who also adopt another reading of the original hieroglyphs.		Previous Identification: Leitz (1995, 91)<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> reads ''knm'' and translates The Dark One, which he interprets as a reference to fainter stars. His identification with λ Aql is refuted by Belmonte and Lull (2023),<ref name=":1">Belmonte, Juan Antonio and Lull, José (2023). Astronomy of Ancient Egypt - A Cultural Perspective, Springer</ref> who also adopt another reading of the original hieroglyphs.
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	== IAU WGSN star name discussion ==		== IAU WGSN star name discussion ==
	The name was proposed to WGSN in 2025. As Kenemu means something as "crew", we are not sure if it would be appropriate for a single star. Juan Belmonte suggests to look for any pair of closing stars or a star which is multiple (not to the naked eye) in the area east of Kaus Australis, as in that case, it may suit. ~~Therefore~~, ~~we pick HIP 89637 is 6~~.03 mag in V.		The name was proposed to WGSN in 2025. As Kenemu means something as "crew", we are not sure if it would be appropriate for a single star. Juan Belmonte suggests to look for any pair of closing stars or a star which is multiple (not to the naked eye) in the area east of Kaus Australis, as in that case, it may suit. Yet, Belmonte and Lull (2023) and Lull (2018) both identify ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr at 3.93 mag in V.

	== Weblinks ==		== Weblinks ==

Sushoff: Sushoff moved page Kemenu to Kenemu: typo

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Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation

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	Kemenu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.		Kemenu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.
	[[File:Lull2018 identDecansWja.png\|thumb\|identifications of Decans in Lull (2018)]]		[[File:Lull2018 identDecansWja.png\|thumb\|identifications of Decans in Lull (2018)]]
	Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Kmnw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of Kmnw with the area between the stars ρ Sgr and 44 Sgr.		Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Kmnw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of ''Kmnw'' with the area between the stars ρ Sgr and 44 Sgr.

	Previous Identification: Leitz (1995, 91)<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> reads knm and translates The Dark One, which he interprets as a reference to fainter stars. His identification with λ Aql is refuted by Belmonte and Lull (2023),<ref name=":1">Belmonte, Juan Antonio and Lull, José (2023). Astronomy of Ancient Egypt - A Cultural Perspective, Springer</ref> who also adopt another reading of the original hieroglyphs.		Previous Identification: Leitz (1995, 91)<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> reads ''knm'' and translates The Dark One, which he interprets as a reference to fainter stars. His identification with λ Aql is refuted by Belmonte and Lull (2023),<ref name=":1">Belmonte, Juan Antonio and Lull, José (2023). Astronomy of Ancient Egypt - A Cultural Perspective, Springer</ref> who also adopt another reading of the original hieroglyphs.

	=== Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation ===		=== Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation ===
	~~There is no identification of this constellation in Neugebauer and Parker, or in Leitz (1995), as their works focused on the so-called decan-constellation (further south).~~
	== Religion/ Tales/ Mythology ==		== Religion/ Tales/ Mythology ==
	mnemonic tales and cultural significance		mnemonic tales and cultural significance

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Origin of Constellation

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	Kemenu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.		Kemenu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.
	[[File:Lull2018 identDecansWja.png\|thumb\|identifications of Decans in Lull (2018)]]		[[File:Lull2018 identDecansWja.png\|thumb\|identifications of Decans in Lull (2018)]]
	Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Kmnw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of Kmnw with the area between the stars ρ Sgr to 44 Sgr.		Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Kmnw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of Kmnw with the area between the stars ρ Sgr and 44 Sgr.

	Previous Identification: Leitz (1995, 91)<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> reads knm and translates The Dark One, which he interprets as a reference to fainter stars. His identification with λ Aql is refuted by Belmonte and Lull (2023),<ref name=":1">Belmonte, Juan Antonio and Lull, José (2023). Astronomy of Ancient Egypt - A Cultural Perspective, Springer</ref> who also adopt another reading of the original hieroglyphs.		Previous Identification: Leitz (1995, 91)<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> reads knm and translates The Dark One, which he interprets as a reference to fainter stars. His identification with λ Aql is refuted by Belmonte and Lull (2023),<ref name=":1">Belmonte, Juan Antonio and Lull, José (2023). Astronomy of Ancient Egypt - A Cultural Perspective, Springer</ref> who also adopt another reading of the original hieroglyphs.

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	[[File:Lull2018 rectZodEsna Decans MidWja+KnmwHi.png\|thumb\|Decans of Wja+Knmw in the astronomical ceiling of Esna (Lull 2018).]]		[[File:Lull2018 rectZodEsna Decans MidWja+KnmwHi.png\|thumb\|Decans of Wja+Knmw in the astronomical ceiling of Esna (Lull 2018).]]
	Kemenu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.		Kemenu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.
			[[File:Lull2018 identDecansWja.png\|thumb\|identifications of Decans in Lull (2018)]]
	Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Kmnw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of Kmnw with the area between the stars ρ Sgr to 44 Sgr.		Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Kmnw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of Kmnw with the area between the stars ρ Sgr to 44 Sgr.

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	[[File:20182AuOrLull constWia Boat+Decans Karakhamun ElenaPischikova+MiguelAMolinero.jpeg\|thumb\|Boat and Decans in tomb of Karakhamun (CC BY Elena Pischikova and Miguel A. Molinero, in Lull 2018).]]		[[File:20182AuOrLull constWia Boat+Decans Karakhamun ElenaPischikova+MiguelAMolinero.jpeg\|thumb\|Boat and Decans in tomb of Karakhamun (CC BY Elena Pischikova and Miguel A. Molinero, in Lull 2018).]]
	Kemenu (kmnw), Crew, is an Egyptian constellation of three stars ρ Sgr - 44 Sgr. (Stars of) Kenmu, 17th decan in Egyptian astral science, has its heliacal rise in month Peret, represented by a small group of stars around ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr.		Kemenu (''kmnw''), Crew, is an Egyptian constellation of three stars ρ Sgr - 44 Sgr.<ref name=":0" /><ref name=":1" /> (Stars of) Kenmu, 17th decan in Egyptian astral science, has its heliacal rise in month Peret, represented by a small group of stars around ρ<sub>1</sub> Sgr.

	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
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	Kemenu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.		Kemenu is the name of a decan (possibly form by several stars as its name indicate, the Crew) of the constellation [[Wia\|Wia, The Boat,]] which is formed by several stars expanding from before the Red of the Prow ([[Antares]]) to the end of [[Sagittarius]]. It is sailing the Milky Way.

	Lull (2018)<ref>Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of [[Wia]], The Boat, with Kmnw, The Crew. He concludes on the identification of Kmnw with the area between the stars ρ Sgr to 44 Sgr.		Lull (2018)<ref name=":0">Lull, José (2018). Ancient Egyptian constellation of WjA (Boat) and its link to Sagittarius in the Ptolemaic and Roman era. ''Aula Orientalis'' 36/2, 257-277</ref> dedicates an entire research paper to the discussion, cultural embedding and astronomical identification of ''[[Wia]]'', The Boat, with ''Kmnw'', The Crew. He concludes on the identification of Kmnw with the area between the stars ρ Sgr to 44 Sgr.

	Previous Identification: Leitz (1995, 91)<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> reads knm and translates The Dark One, which he interprets as a reference to fainter stars. His identification with λ Aql is refuted by Belmonte and Lull (2023),<ref>Belmonte, Juan Antonio and Lull, José (2023). Astronomy of Ancient Egypt - A Cultural Perspective, Springer</ref> who also adopt another reading of the original hieroglyphs.		Previous Identification: Leitz (1995, 91)<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> reads knm and translates The Dark One, which he interprets as a reference to fainter stars. His identification with λ Aql is refuted by Belmonte and Lull (2023),<ref name=":1">Belmonte, Juan Antonio and Lull, José (2023). Astronomy of Ancient Egypt - A Cultural Perspective, Springer</ref> who also adopt another reading of the original hieroglyphs.

	=== Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation ===		=== Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation ===