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	[[File:GABA Sco Lisi Stellarium.png\|thumb\|Heart of the Scorpion, Babylonian star name in Stellarium. ]]		[[File:GABA Sco Lisi Stellarium.png\|thumb\|Heart of the Scorpion, Babylonian star name in Stellarium. ]]
	<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in [[Scorpius]]. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also makes mention of [[Sirius]], [[Antares]], [[Vega]], and the planet Mercury.		<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in [[Scorpius]]. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also makes mention of [[Sirius]], [[Antares]], [[Vega]], and the planet Mercury.

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	<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in [[Scorpius]]. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also makes mention of [[Sirius]], [[Antares]], [[Vega]], and the planet Mercury.		<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in [[Scorpius]]. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also makes mention of [[Sirius]], [[Antares]], [[Vega]], and the planet Mercury.

	== Concordance, Etymology, History ==		== Concordance, Etymology, History<ref>[[Mesopotamian (All Terms)\|Planetarium Babylonicum 2.0]], All Skies Encyclopaedia.</ref> ==
			A child of the mother goddess, in early sources considered as a female, later as a male deity. <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> (EA 11r).<ref>Hoffmann, S. M. and Krebernik, M. (2023). What do deities tell us about the celestial positioning system, in: R. Rollinger, I. Madreiter, M. Lang, C. Pappi (eds.). The Intellectual Heritage of the Ancient Near East, Papers held at the 64th Rencontre Assyriologique International and 12th Melammu Symposium July 16-20 2018, Innsbruck. Austrian Academy of Sciences Press, 539-579</ref>

	~~=== Dictionary Krebernik (2023) ===~~		Var. readings:
	~~A child of the mother goddess, in early sources considered as a female, later as a male deity. <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> (EA 11r)~~.

	~~===Kurtik with Hilder, Hoffmann, Horowitz, Kim===~~		* <sup>d</sup>NE.GUN<sub>3</sub>,
	~~Var. readings:~~ <sup>d</sup>NE.GUN<sub>3</sub>, <sup>d</sup>NE.SI<sub>4</sub>; = <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub>; Fox, deity of the star Antares (α Scorpii) [G. 253; Hunger 1987; BPO 2, 13], see also (Kurtik s17) [[SI4\|SI<sub>4</sub>]].		* <sup>d</sup>NE.SI<sub>4</sub>;
			* = <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub>; Fox, deity of the star [[Antares]] (α Scorpii) [G. 253; Hunger 1987; BPO 2, 13], see also (Kurtik s17) [[SI4\|SI<sub>4</sub>]].
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	===Additional===		===Additional===

	==== ~~II.~~ Deity. ====		==== Deity. ====
	The Fox deity is known from the time of the 3rd dynasty of Ur and was originally venerated as the Fox goddess [Michalowski 1987; Sallaberger 1993, Bd. I, 254]. The name Fox is present in early lists of gods [Weidner 1924-25, 10:7], but in AN:<sup>d</sup>''Anum'' (II 70) it is a male deity. Fox apparently acquired astral significance not earlier than the 1st millennium B.C. and as a star was always considered a male deity. For prayers to the Fox in MUL.APIN, see above. In the list of the 12 city gods of Babylon(?) <sup>d</sup>li<sub>9</sub>.si<sub>4</sub> is given in the last place [Livingstone 1986, 54:5]. In astrological geography, the Fox is associated with the city of Borsippa [Weidner 1963, 120a]. See also [Livingstone 1986, 54-57, 58, 178-179, 183; Tallqvist 1938, 389].		The Fox deity is known from the time of the 3rd dynasty of Ur and was originally venerated as the Fox goddess [Michalowski 1987; Sallaberger 1993, Bd. I, 254]. The name Fox is present in early lists of gods [Weidner 1924-25, 10:7], but in AN:<sup>d</sup>''Anum'' (II 70) it is a male deity. Fox apparently acquired astral significance not earlier than the 1st millennium B.C. and as a star was always considered a male deity. For prayers to the Fox in MUL.APIN, see above. In the list of the 12 city gods of Babylon(?) <sup>d</sup>li<sub>9</sub>.si<sub>4</sub> is given in the last place [Livingstone 1986, 54:5]. In astrological geography, the Fox is associated with the city of Borsippa [Weidner 1963, 120a]. See also [Livingstone 1986, 54-57, 58, 178-179, 183; Tallqvist 1938, 389].

	====~~III.~~ Identification.====		====Identification.====
	= Antares (α Scorpii) [G. 253; Weidner 1957-59, 80b; BPO 2, 13; MA, 138; Mesop.Astrol., 207, App. C; ASM, 274].		= Antares (α Scorpii) [G. 253; Weidner 1957-59, 80b; BPO 2, 13; MA, 138; Mesop.Astrol., 207, App. C; ASM, 274].

	==== ~~IV.~~ Astrology. ====		==== Astrology. ====

	===== Identifications: =====		===== Identifications: =====

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			[[File:GABA Sco Lisi Stellarium.png\|thumb\|Heart of the Scorpion, Babylonian star name in Stellarium. ]]
	<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in [[Scorpius]]. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also makes mention of [[Sirius]], [[Antares]], [[Vega]], and the planet Mercury:		<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in [[Scorpius]]. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also makes mention of [[Sirius]], [[Antares]], [[Vega]], and the planet Mercury.

	== Concordance, Etymology, History ==		== Concordance, Etymology, History ==
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	*Kurtik's correction for Nv. 10, <sup>mul˺</sup><li<sub>9</sub>>.˹si<sub>4</sub>˺ as the AN.TA.ŠU<sub>2</sub>.UR.RA in the month of Simanu can now longer be upheld. (See Kurtik sh17) [[ŠU.PA]]~~<s>~~.~~</s>~~		*Kurtik's correction for Nv. 10, <sup>mul˺</sup><li<sub>9</sub>>.˹si<sub>4</sub>˺ as the AN.TA.ŠU<sub>2</sub>.UR.RA in the month of Simanu can now longer be upheld. (See Kurtik sh17) [[ŠU.PA]].
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	**a) ''u''<sub>4</sub>-''um'' <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> IGI.LA<sub>2</sub> 3 ''u''<sub>4</sub>-''me mu-ši-ta'' LU<sub>2</sub> NIGIN ''E''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> / NAM.LU<sub>2</sub>.U<sub>18</sub>.LU GU<sub>4</sub> UDU.NITA<sub>2</sub> ANŠE ''li-de-ek-ki'' / NU ''ina-al u ana'' <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> ''lik-ru-ub'' KI NIGIN<sub>2</sub> ''E''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> ''uš-tak-lal'' "On the day when the Fox deity becomes visible (i.e. heliacal rising of Antares takes place), for three days, during the night, a man should wake all those around his house - people, oxen, sheep, donkeys - he should not sleep, he should pray to the Fox god, (then) he and all those around his house will be successful" (II iii 35-37)		**a) ''u''<sub>4</sub>-''um'' <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> IGI.LA<sub>2</sub> 3 ''u''<sub>4</sub>-''me mu-ši-ta'' LU<sub>2</sub> NIGIN ''E''<sub>2</sub>-''šu''<sub>2</sub> / NAM.LU<sub>2</sub>.U<sub>18</sub>.LU GU<sub>4</sub> UDU.NITA<sub>2</sub> ANŠE ''li-de-ek-ki'' / NU ''ina-al u ana'' <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> ''lik-ru-ub'' KI NIGIN<sub>2</sub> ''E''<sub>2</sub>''-šu''<sub>2</sub> ''uš-tak-lal'' "On the day when the Fox deity becomes visible (i.e. heliacal rising of Antares takes place), for three days, during the night, a man should wake all those around his house - people, oxen, sheep, donkeys - he should not sleep, he should pray to the Fox god, (then) he and all those around his house will be successful" (II iii 35-37)
	**(b) DIŠ MUL TA <sup>im</sup>MAR SUR-''ma ana'' ŠA<sub>3</sub> <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> TU ḪI.GAR GAL<sub>2</sub> "If a star flashes in the west and enters (the star) Fox: there will be rebellion" (II iii 42) [MA, 38, 113-114].		**(b) DIŠ MUL TA <sup>im</sup>MAR SUR-''ma ana'' ŠA<sub>3</sub> <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> TU ḪI.GAR GAL<sub>2</sub> "If a star flashes in the west and enters (the star) Fox: there will be rebellion" (II iii 42) [MA, 38, 113-114].
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	<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in ~~Scorpio~~. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also ~~which~~ makes mention of Sirius, Antares, Vega, and the planet Mercury:		<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in [[Scorpius]]. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also makes mention of [[Sirius]], [[Antares]], [[Vega]], and the planet Mercury:

	== Concordance, Etymology, History ==		== Concordance, Etymology, History ==

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	<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in Scorpio. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also which makes mention of Sirius, Antares, Vega, and the planet Mercury:		<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in Scorpio. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also which makes mention of Sirius, Antares, Vega, and the planet Mercury:

	~~<u>'''But SAA 10 81 = supposedly = K1409 (now joined to K 796? (I can't read the last number on the fragment's photo in P334913) = ABL 1449 - we need to try to figure this out'''</u>~~

	== Concordance, Etymology, History ==		== Concordance, Etymology, History ==
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	*<s~~>The Text~~ Nv. 10. <sup>~~˹mul˺~~</sup><li<sub>9</sub>>.˹si<sub>4</sub>˺ is the ~~asterism~~ AN.TA.ŠU<sub>2</sub>.UR.RA in the month of Simanu~~, see~~ (Kurtik sh17) [[ŠU.PA]].</s> ~~'''''No longer good reading - see Horowitz Astrolabes 223 - what do we do about this now in Kurtik??? - also below same issue w/ strikeout'''''~~		*Kurtik's correction for Nv. 10, <sup>mul˺</sup><li<sub>9</sub>>.˹si<sub>4</sub>˺ as the AN.TA.ŠU<sub>2</sub>.UR.RA in the month of Simanu can now longer be upheld. (See Kurtik sh17) [[ŠU.PA]]<s>.</s>
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	~~<s>~~For the abbreviation SI<sub>4</sub>, see (Kurtik s17) [[SI4\|SI<sub>4</sub>]].~~</s>~~		For the abbreviation SI<sub>4</sub>, see (Kurtik s17) [[SI4\|SI<sub>4</sub>]].
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WayneHorowitz: But SAA 10 81 = supposedly = K1409 (now joined to K 796? (I can't read the last number on the fragment's photo in P334913) = ABL 1449 - we need to try to figure this out

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But SAA 10 81 = supposedly = K1409 (now joined to K 796? (I can't read the last number on the fragment's photo in P334913) = ABL 1449 - we need to try to figure this out

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	<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in Scorpio. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2~~, a fragment which makes mention of Sirius, Antares, Vega, and the planet Mercury:~~ <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''.		<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in Scorpio. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2 ( <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''). This fragment also which makes mention of Sirius, Antares, Vega, and the planet Mercury:

	<u>'''But SAA 10 81 = supposedly = K1409 (now joined to K 796? (I can't read the last number on the fragment's photo in P334913) = ABL 1449 - we need to try to figure this out'''</u>		<u>'''But SAA 10 81 = supposedly = K1409 (now joined to K 796? (I can't read the last number on the fragment's photo in P334913) = ABL 1449 - we need to try to figure this out'''</u>

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	<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in Scorpio. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2, a fragment which makes mention of Sirius, Antares, Vega, and the planet Mercury: <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''.		<sup>mul / d</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> (𒀯𒉈𒋜) is the deity associated with the star Antares in Scorpio. The reading LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> is assured by the gloss ''li-si'' in SAA 10 81: 2, a fragment which makes mention of Sirius, Antares, Vega, and the planet Mercury: <sup>mul</sup>LI<sub>9</sub>.SI<sub>4</sub> = ''li-si''.

	<u>'''But SAA 10 81 = supposedly = K1409 (now joined to K 796? (I can't read the last number on the fragment's photo in P334913) = ABL 1449 - we need to try to figure this out'''</u>		<u>'''But SAA 10 81 = supposedly = K1409 (now joined to K 796? (I can't read the last number on the fragment's photo in P334913) = ABL 1449 - we need to try to figure this out'''</u>

	~~Dictionary Krebernik (2023)~~		== Concordance, Etymology, History ==

			=== Dictionary Krebernik (2023) ===
	A child of the mother goddess, in early sources considered as a female, later as a male deity. <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> (EA 11r).		A child of the mother goddess, in early sources considered as a female, later as a male deity. <sup>d</sup>''Li''<sub>9</sub>-''si''<sub>4</sub> (EA 11r).

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	= Antares (α Scorpii) [G. 253; Weidner 1957-59, 80b; BPO 2, 13; MA, 138; Mesop.Astrol., 207, App. C; ASM, 274].		= Antares (α Scorpii) [G. 253; Weidner 1957-59, 80b; BPO 2, 13; MA, 138; Mesop.Astrol., 207, App. C; ASM, 274].

	===IV. Astrology.===		==== IV. Astrology. ====
	~~Identifications:~~

			===== Identifications: =====
	(1) = Saturn; see above K 4339 iii 23.		(1) = Saturn; see above K 4339 iii 23.

	~~Predictions~~:		===== Predictions: =====

	(2) Mars and Fox;		(2) Mars and Fox;