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 [[File:LULIM messenger of MULMUL.jpg|thumb|The Stag (very roughly known area) above the horizon when the Pleiades rise]]
 <sup>mul / d</sup>LU.LIM (𒀯𒇻𒅆) = ''lulīmu'', 'The Stag,' is a multi-star constellation including stars belonging to the constellation Andromeda. A number of named asterisms comprise the constellation including its breast, kidney, and an element PA.SI which has yet to be fully understood.
 ==Concordance, Etymology, History<ref>[[Mesopotamian (All Terms)|Planetarium Babylonicum 2.0]], All Skies Encyclopaedia.</ref>==

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	\|'''MUL.APIN.'''		\|'''MUL.APIN.'''
	* (1) Enlil's stars (nos. 30, 31, 32):		* (1) Enlil's stars (nos. 30, 31, 32):
	** a) MUL ''ša''<sub>2</sub> EGIR-''šu''<sub>2</sub> GUB-''zu'' <sup>mul</sup>''lu-lim'' SUKKAL MUL.MUL "The star that stands behind it (viz. i.e. behind <sup>mul</sup>UD.KA.DUḪ.A), the Stag, the ~~messenger~~ of the ~~Star Cluster~~" (I i 31),		** a) MUL ''ša''<sub>2</sub> EGIR-''šu''<sub>2</sub> GUB-''zu'' <sup>mul</sup>''lu-lim'' SUKKAL MUL.MUL "The star that stands behind it (viz. i.e. behind <sup>mul</sup>UD.KA.DUḪ.A), the Stag, the minister of the Stars" (I i 31) [Hunger & Steele 2019<ref name=":1">Hunger, H., & Steele, J. (2019). ''The Babylonian astronomical compendium MUL. APIN''. Routledge.</ref>: 36]
	** (b) MUL<sup>meš</sup> ''um-mu-lu-tu''<sub>4</sub> ''ša''<sub>2</sub> ''ina'' GABA <sup>mul</sup>''lu-lim'' / GUB<sup>meš</sup>-''zu'' <sup>d</sup>''Ḫar-ri-ru'' <sup>d</sup>TIR.AN. NA "The ~~dim star that stands on~~ the Stag~~'s breast, Hariru~~, Rainbow" (I i 32-33),		** (b) MUL<sup>meš</sup> ''um-mu-lu-tu''<sub>4</sub> ''ša''<sub>2</sub> ''ina'' GABA <sup>mul</sup>''lu-lim'' / GUB<sup>meš</sup>-''zu'' <sup>d</sup>''Ḫar-ri-ru'' <sup>d</sup>TIR.AN. NA "The scintillating stars which stand in the chest of the Stag: / The Vole, the Rainbow god." (I i 32-33).<ref name=":1" />
	** (c) MUL SA<sub>5</sub> ''ne''<sub>2</sub>-''bu-u''<sub>2</sub> ''ša''<sub>2</sub> ''ina'' BIR <sup>mul</sup>''lu-lim'' / GUB-''zu'' <sup>mul</sup>KA.MUŠ.I<sub>3</sub>.KU<sub>2</sub>.E "The red star ~~with great brilliance that~~ stands in the Stag~~'s kidney~~: ~~Pest~~" (I i 34-35).		** (c) MUL SA<sub>5</sub> ''ne''<sub>2</sub>-''bu-u''<sub>2</sub> ''ša''<sub>2</sub> ''ina'' BIR <sup>mul</sup>''lu-lim'' / GUB-''zu'' <sup>mul</sup>KA.MUŠ.I<sub>3</sub>.KU<sub>2</sub>.E "The bright red star which stands in the kidney of the Stag: The Deleter" (I i 34-35) [Hunger & Steele 2019<ref name=":1" />: 37].
	* (2) Dates of heliacal risings: 'on the 5th day of Sabbath' (I iii 10), see (Kurtik a48) [[AŠ.GAN\|AŠ.GAN<sub>2</sub>]].		* (2) Dates of heliacal risings: 'on the 5th day of Sabbath' (I iii 10), see (Kurtik a48) [[AŠ.GAN\|AŠ.GAN<sub>2</sub>]].
	* (3) Simultaneous daily sunrises and sunsets: (I iii 31), see (Kurtik a48) [[AŠ.GAN\|AŠ.GAN<sub>2</sub>]].		* (3) Simultaneous daily sunrises and sunsets: (I iii 31), see (Kurtik a48) [[AŠ.GAN\|AŠ.GAN<sub>2</sub>]].

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	Authors: ~~Gennady E. Kurtik,~~ {{PAGEAUTHORS}}~~, Euin Choung Kim~~		Authors: {{PAGEAUTHORS}}
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	[[File:LULIM messenger of MULMUL.jpg\|thumb\|The Stag (very roughly known area) above the horizon when the Pleiades rise]]		[[File:LULIM messenger of MULMUL.jpg\|thumb\|The Stag (very roughly known area) above the horizon when the Pleiades rise]]

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	Authors: Gennady E. Kurtik, {{PAGEAUTHORS}}		Authors: Gennady E. Kurtik, {{PAGEAUTHORS}}, Euin Choung Kim
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	[[File:LULIM messenger of MULMUL.jpg\|thumb\|The Stag (very roughly known area) above the horizon when the Pleiades rise]]		[[File:LULIM messenger of MULMUL.jpg\|thumb\|The Stag (very roughly known area) above the horizon when the Pleiades rise]]

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			Authors: Gennady E. Kurtik, {{PAGEAUTHORS}}
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	[[File:LULIM messenger of MULMUL.jpg\|thumb\|The Stag (very roughly known area) above the horizon when the Pleiades rise]]		[[File:LULIM messenger of MULMUL.jpg\|thumb\|The Stag (very roughly known area) above the horizon when the Pleiades rise]]
	<sup>mul / d</sup>LU.LIM (𒀯𒇻𒅆) = ''lulīmu'', 'The Stag,' is a multi-star constellation including stars belonging to the constellation Andromeda. A number of named asterisms comprise the constellation including its breast, kidney, and an element PA.SI which has yet to be fully understood.		<sup>mul / d</sup>LU.LIM (𒀯𒇻𒅆) = ''lulīmu'', 'The Stag,' is a multi-star constellation including stars belonging to the constellation Andromeda. A number of named asterisms comprise the constellation including its breast, kidney, and an element PA.SI which has yet to be fully understood.

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	===Additional===		===Additional===

	==== ~~II.~~ Deity. ====		==== Deity. ====
	For what is almost certainly Venus as a morning-star described as a lu-lim in the Sumerian literary work A Message of Lu-dingirra 22-23 to his mother, see https://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section5/c551.htm.		For what is almost certainly Venus as a morning-star described as a lu-lim in the Sumerian literary work A Message of Lu-dingirra 22-23 to his mother, see https://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section5/c551.htm.



	Almost nothing is known about the ritual and divine status of the Stag as a divinity or asterism. Stags are common animals in Ancient Mesopotamian texts and even occurs as a royal name in the antediluvian portion of the Sumerian King List (Jacobsen 1939, 70 71: 3-4).		Almost nothing is known about the ritual and divine status of the Stag as a divinity or asterism. Stags are common animals in Ancient Mesopotamian texts and even occurs as a royal name in the antediluvian portion of the Sumerian King List (Jacobsen 1939, 70 71: 3-4).
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	<s>The Stag is rarely mentioned in Sumerian literature [Heimpel 1968, 249-250]. The name lu.lim as a royal name is given in the pre-Flood era of the Sumerian King List [Jacobsen 1939, 70-71:3-4]. Among the royal epithets of the first millennium BC: ''lu-li-mu eršu'' "wise Stag" (Sennacherib), ''lu-li-mu šūpû'' "glorious Stag" (Nabonidus) [CAD L, 241a].</s> The identifications with Enmesharra and Saturn and the connection with the Pleiades (and through their intermediary with the Seven Gods) have, apparently, a rather late origin and do not give anything for understanding the early history of this constellation.		<s>The Stag is rarely mentioned in Sumerian literature [Heimpel 1968, 249-250]. The name lu.lim as a royal name is given in the pre-Flood era of the Sumerian King List [Jacobsen 1939, 70-71:3-4]. Among the royal epithets of the first millennium BC: ''lu-li-mu eršu'' "wise Stag" (Sennacherib), ''lu-li-mu šūpû'' "glorious Stag" (Nabonidus) [CAD L, 241a].</s> The identifications with Enmesharra and Saturn and the connection with the Pleiades (and through their intermediary with the Seven Gods) have, apparently, a rather late origin and do not give anything for understanding the early history of this constellation.

	==== ~~III.~~ Symbol. ====		==== Symbol. ====
	Stag. Numerous images of Stag (stags) are found on seals of the 3rd millennium B.C. However, it is not known whether they have an astral meaning.		Stag. Numerous images of Stag (stags) are found on seals of the 3rd millennium B.C. However, it is not known whether they have an astral meaning.

	==== ~~IV.~~ Identification. ====		==== Previous Identification. ====
	Constellation:		Constellation:

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	= α, β, γ, δ Cassiopeiae (VAT 16436:4) [ASM, 88].		= α, β, γ, δ Cassiopeiae (VAT 16436:4) [ASM, 88].

	==== V. Parts of the constellation and individual stars. ====		==== Parts of the constellation and individual stars. ====
	(1) SI <sup>mul</sup>LU.LIM "Horn of the Stag." [SpTU I, 95:7].		(1) SI <sup>mul</sup>LU.LIM "Horn of the Stag." [SpTU I, 95:7].

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	(8) GIR<sub>3</sub> 15 <sup>mul</sup>LU.LIM 'the right leg of the Stag', see (Kurtik u06) [[UD.KA.DU8.A\|UD.KA.DU<sub>8</sub>.A]], VI 10.		(8) GIR<sub>3</sub> 15 <sup>mul</sup>LU.LIM 'the right leg of the Stag', see (Kurtik u06) [[UD.KA.DU8.A\|UD.KA.DU<sub>8</sub>.A]], VI 10.

	==== ~~VI.~~ Astrology. ====		==== Astrology. ====

	===== Identifications: =====		===== Identifications: =====

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