Lang-Exster - Revision history

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 [[File:Exster (name in first publication).jpg|thumb|In his first publication, de Houtman (1603) named the constellation "Exster".]]
 This star name was newly applied by the IAU WGSN to the brightest star in the constellation [[Tucana]].<ref>Frederik de Houtman (1603) [https://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/index.php?obj=1874-205055&lan=en#page//10/65/92/106592907949460216143244254321834124579.jpg/mode/1up Star Catalogue concerning the Indian Magpie]</ref> It combines a Malayan 'hornbill' and Dutch 'magpie' and is the name of HIP 110130 (α Tuc, HR 8502) in constellation Tuc.

YoulaAzkarrula at 13:54, 7 June 2026

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YoulaAzkarrula at 04:09, 19 May 2026

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Sushoff at 06:26, 22 January 2026

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	[[File:Exster (name in first publication).jpg\|thumb\|In his first publication, de Houtman (1603) named the constellation "Exster".]]		[[File:Exster (name in first publication).jpg\|thumb\|In his first publication, de Houtman (1603) named the constellation "Exster".]]
	This star name was newly applied by the IAU WGSN to the brightest star in the constellation [[Tucana]].<ref>Frederik de Houtman (1603) [https://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/index.php?obj=1874-205055&lan=en#page//10/65/92/106592907949460216143244254321834124579.jpg/mode/1up Star Catalogue concerning the Indian Magpie]</ref> It combines a Malayan 'hornbill' and Dutch 'magpie' and is the name of HIP 110130 (α Tuc, HR 8502) in constellation Tuc.		This star name was newly applied by the IAU WGSN to the brightest star in the constellation [[Tucana]].<ref>Frederik de Houtman (1603) [https://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/index.php?obj=1874-205055&lan=en#page//10/65/92/106592907949460216143244254321834124579.jpg/mode/1up Star Catalogue concerning the Indian Magpie]</ref> It combines a Malayan 'hornbill' and Dutch 'magpie' and is the name of HIP 110130 (α Tuc, HR 8502) in constellation Tuc.

IanRidpath at 20:06, 18 June 2025

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	[[File:Exster (name in first publication).jpg\|thumb\|In his first publication, de Houtman (1603) named the constellation "Exster".]]		[[File:Exster (name in first publication).jpg\|thumb\|In his first publication, de Houtman (1603) named the constellation "Exster".]]
	This star name was newly applied by the IAU WGSN to the brightest star in the constellation [[Tucana]].<ref>Frederik de Houtman (1603) [https://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/index.php?obj=1874-205055&lan=en#page//10/65/92/106592907949460216143244254321834124579.jpg/mode/1up Star Catalogue concerning the Indian Magpie]</ref> It combines a Malayan 'hornbill' and Dutch 'magpie' and is the name of ~~HIP110130~~ (α Tuc, HR 8502) in constellation Tuc.		This star name was newly applied by the IAU WGSN to the brightest star in the constellation [[Tucana]].<ref>Frederik de Houtman (1603) [https://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/index.php?obj=1874-205055&lan=en#page//10/65/92/106592907949460216143244254321834124579.jpg/mode/1up Star Catalogue concerning the Indian Magpie]</ref> It combines a Malayan 'hornbill' and Dutch 'magpie' and is the name of HIP 110130 (α Tuc, HR 8502) in constellation Tuc.

	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==
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	The intention of this naming was using both terms: the European one and the Indigenous one, so WGSN created a double name. It had been suggested to use (either) "Exster" and (or) "Lang". It was discussed that the Dutch term "Exster" could leave some unpleasant aftertaste of colonialism, which is not wanted by WGSN and which was and is not interpreted in Asia (the Asians are very relaxed concerning this part of history; they love to be free now and not a colony anymore, but they also considered this part of history as a interesting historical exchange that left its traces in their modern culture). The alternative, using only the term "Lang" could also be misleading as the short word has a meaning in modern Dutch that differs from historical Dutch - it is important to mention that this is not a European term but a Malayan one (although the spelling might not match modern Malayan or Indonesian "Bahasa"). More importantly, colonialism or occupation was also certainly not intended by the Dutch creator (Frederik de Houtman) of the name: he wrote a dictionary on the Malayan language in Dutch, so his intention was to preserve the Malayan term(s), and he wrote it in prison (in Aceh, those days Malaysia, today Indonesia), so he was captured and did not occupy.		The intention of this naming was using both terms: the European one and the Indigenous one, so WGSN created a double name. It had been suggested to use (either) "Exster" and (or) "Lang". It was discussed that the Dutch term "Exster" could leave some unpleasant aftertaste of colonialism, which is not wanted by WGSN and which was and is not interpreted in Asia (the Asians are very relaxed concerning this part of history; they love to be free now and not a colony anymore, but they also considered this part of history as a interesting historical exchange that left its traces in their modern culture). The alternative, using only the term "Lang" could also be misleading as the short word has a meaning in modern Dutch that differs from historical Dutch - it is important to mention that this is not a European term but a Malayan one (although the spelling might not match modern Malayan or Indonesian "Bahasa"). More importantly, colonialism or occupation was also certainly not intended by the Dutch creator (Frederik de Houtman) of the name: he wrote a dictionary on the Malayan language in Dutch, so his intention was to preserve the Malayan term(s), and he wrote it in prison (in Aceh, those days Malaysia, today Indonesia), so he was captured and did not occupy.

	WGSN considers this naming as a unique encounter of historical cultural exchange (without ~~surpressing~~ intentions).		WGSN considers this naming as a unique encounter of historical cultural exchange (without suppressing intentions).

	Thus, WGSN decided to name the (unresolved) star Lang-Exster. In compound words, in many languages, the determining part is first and the main word is second. So, the Lang-Exster is considered the one magpie, among all magpie species, that is also called "lang".		Thus, WGSN decided to name the (unresolved) star Lang-Exster. In compound words, in many languages, the determining part is first and the main word is second. So, the Lang-Exster is considered the one magpie, among all magpie species, that is also called "lang".

	==IAU Working Group Star Names==		==IAU Working Group Star Names==
	As ~~alpha~~ Tucanae is a spectroscopic binary, WGSN considered giving it a double name justified. It is a main star of an official constellation and only one dot of light is visible in the sky. Hence, people will talk about it in the public: a planetarian or amateur astronomer who points at that star, will just say "This is the main star of the constellation Tuc; the IAU named it Lang-Exster to remind us on the original name of the constellation: 'Exster' in Dutch, 'Lang' in Malayan, for the definition of the constellation was given in a Malayan-Dutch dictionary". WGSN would be fine to split the name in its components when referring to the binary components in astrophysics papers (similar to Alcor-Mizar).		As Alpha Tucanae is a spectroscopic binary, WGSN considered giving it a double name justified. It is a main star of an official constellation and only one dot of light is visible in the sky. Hence, people will talk about it in the public: a planetarian or amateur astronomer who points at that star, will just say "This is the main star of the constellation Tuc; the IAU named it Lang-Exster to remind us on the original name of the constellation: 'Exster' in Dutch, 'Lang' in Malayan, for the definition of the constellation was given in a Malayan-Dutch dictionary". WGSN would be fine to split the name in its components when referring to the binary components in astrophysics papers (similar to Alcor-Mizar).

	The name Lang-Exster for the visual dot-source α Tucanae was officialized by the IAU WGSN in 2024.		The name Lang-Exster for the visual dot-source α Tucanae was officialized by the IAU WGSN in 2024.

Sushoff at 11:00, 31 May 2025

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Sushoff at 11:33, 18 May 2025

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	[[File:Exster (name in first publication).jpg\|thumb\|In his first publication, de Houtman (1603) named the constellation "Exster".]]		[[File:Exster (name in first publication).jpg\|thumb\|In his first publication, de Houtman (1603) named the constellation "Exster".]]
	This star name was newly applied to the brightest star in the constellation [[Tucana]].<ref>Frederik de Houtman (1603) [https://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/index.php?obj=1874-205055&lan=en#page//10/65/92/106592907949460216143244254321834124579.jpg/mode/1up Star Catalogue concerning the Indian Magpie]</ref> It combines a Malayan 'hornbill' and Dutch 'magpie'.		This star name was newly applied by the IAU WGSN to the brightest star in the constellation [[Tucana]].<ref>Frederik de Houtman (1603) [https://objects.library.uu.nl/reader/index.php?obj=1874-205055&lan=en#page//10/65/92/106592907949460216143244254321834124579.jpg/mode/1up Star Catalogue concerning the Indian Magpie]</ref> It combines a Malayan 'hornbill' and Dutch 'magpie' and is the name of HIP110130 (α Tuc, HR 8502) in constellation Tuc.

	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==

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	Thus, WGSN decided to name the (unresolved) star Lang-Exster. In compound words, in many languages, the determining part is first and the main word is second. So, the Lang-Exster is considered the one magpie, among all magpie species, that is also called "lang".		Thus, WGSN decided to name the (unresolved) star Lang-Exster. In compound words, in many languages, the determining part is first and the main word is second. So, the Lang-Exster is considered the one magpie, among all magpie species, that is also called "lang".
	==IAU Working Group Star Names==		==IAU Working Group Star Names==
	As alpha Tucanae is a spectroscopic binary, WGSN considered giving it a double name justified. It is a main star of an official constellation and only one dot of light is visible in the sky. Hence, people will talk about it in the public: a planetarian or amateur astronomer who points at that star, will just say "This is the main star of the constellation Tuc; the IAU named it Lang-Exster to remind us on the original name of the constellation: "Exster" in Dutch, "Lang" in Malayan, for the definition of the constellation was given in a Malayan-Dutch dictionary". WGSN would be fine to split the name in its components when referring to the binary components in astrophysics papers (similar to Alcor-Mizar).		As alpha Tucanae is a spectroscopic binary, WGSN considered giving it a double name justified. It is a main star of an official constellation and only one dot of light is visible in the sky. Hence, people will talk about it in the public: a planetarian or amateur astronomer who points at that star, will just say "This is the main star of the constellation Tuc; the IAU named it Lang-Exster to remind us on the original name of the constellation: 'Exster' in Dutch, 'Lang' in Malayan, for the definition of the constellation was given in a Malayan-Dutch dictionary". WGSN would be fine to split the name in its components when referring to the binary components in astrophysics papers (similar to Alcor-Mizar).

	The name Lang-Exster for the visual dot-source α Tucanae was officialized by the IAU WGSN in 2024.		The name Lang-Exster for the visual dot-source α Tucanae was officialized by the IAU WGSN in 2024.

Sushoff at 08:19, 17 December 2024

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	=== Constellation Name ===		=== Constellation Name ===
	The entry in de Houtman's original star catalogue for the new constellation it is written in Dutch "den Indiaenschen Exster, op Indies Lang ghenaemt". The term "Lang" originates from the Malayan language and it was used by some globe makers to label the constellation (see Tucana-entry). The term "Exster" is Dutch and means magpie. The bird that de Houtman refers to is actually a hornbill which does not have a European equivalent; it has a strong significance in indigenous cultures, e.g. the Dayak cultures in Indonesia.		The entry in de Houtman's original star catalogue for the new constellation it is written in Dutch <blockquote>"den Indiaenschen Exster, op Indies Lang ghenaemt". </blockquote>The term "Lang" originates from the Malayan language and it was used by some globe makers to label the constellation (see Tucana-entry). The term "Exster" is Dutch and means magpie. The bird that de Houtman refers to is actually a hornbill which does not have a European equivalent; it has a strong significance in indigenous cultures, e.g. the Dayak cultures in Indonesia.

	=== Naming of the Main Star ===		=== Naming of the Main Star ===