MUŠEN - Revision history

Sushoff at 18:48, 26 March 2026

2026-03-26T18:48:46Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 18:48, 26 March 2026
Line 4:		Line 4:
	<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. The lexical entry cannot affirm this suggestion, but the only other context we have is in the Dalbanna text where it is a bird on the tail of a snake, i.e. Corvus ([[UGA]]) on Hydra ([[MUŠ]]).		<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. The lexical entry cannot affirm this suggestion, but the only other context we have is in the Dalbanna text where it is a bird on the tail of a snake, i.e. Corvus ([[UGA]]) on Hydra ([[MUŠ]]).

	<s>~~It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called~~ [[~~Corvus~~]], ~~Babylonian [[UGA]] (a bird shaped asterism sitting on the tail of a snake)~~.</s>		== Concordance, Etymology, History<ref>[[Mesopotamian (All Terms)\|Planetarium Babylonicum 2.0]], All Skies Encyclopaedia.</ref> ==




	~~==Concordance, Etymology, History~~==
	<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.		<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.

	=== ~~Kurtik with Hilder, Hoffmann, Horowitz, Kim~~ ===		=== Sources and Identifications ===

	{\| class="wikitable"		{\| class="wikitable"
Line 27:		Line 22:
	\|'''Dalbanna-text.'''		\|'''Dalbanna-text.'''
	* §O. MUŠEN (sign ḪU), see (Kurtik m18) [[MAŠ.TAB.BA.TUR.TUR]] where the same dal.ba.an.na pattern is discussed		* §O. MUŠEN (sign ḪU), see (Kurtik m18) [[MAŠ.TAB.BA.TUR.TUR]] where the same dal.ba.an.na pattern is discussed
	\|~~Dlb.~~		\|Dalbanna

	* §O comes in three versions. Only one of them has the phrase "head of the Snake-with-Bird". It is obviously a specifier to distinguish one snake from another one without a bird. The dlb-text does not follow the standard language of Mesopotamian mathematical astronomy. Because of this and astronomical reasons, we suggest to interpret the "Snake with Bird" as Hydra+Corvus. MUŠEN would then be identified with Corvus.		* §O comes in three versions. Only one of them has the phrase "head of the Snake-with-Bird". It is obviously a specifier to distinguish one snake from another one without a bird. The dlb-text does not follow the standard language of Mesopotamian mathematical astronomy. Because of this and astronomical reasons, we suggest to interpret the "Snake with Bird" as Hydra+Corvus. MUŠEN would then be identified with Corvus.

Sushoff at 08:21, 17 January 2026

2026-01-17T08:21:44Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 08:21, 17 January 2026
Line 1:		Line 1:
			Authors: Gennady E. Kurtik, {{PAGEAUTHORS}}, Euin Choung Kim
			----
	[[File:Hya+crt+crv stellarium mulapin.jpg\|thumb\|Babylonian version of the "Hydra, Corvus" super-constellation, visualized in Stellarium (drawing by Jessica Gullberg).]]		[[File:Hya+crt+crv stellarium mulapin.jpg\|thumb\|Babylonian version of the "Hydra, Corvus" super-constellation, visualized in Stellarium (drawing by Jessica Gullberg).]]
	<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. The lexical entry cannot affirm this suggestion, but the only other context we have is in the Dalbanna text where it is a bird on the tail of a snake, i.e. Corvus ([[UGA]]) on Hydra ([[MUŠ]]).		<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. The lexical entry cannot affirm this suggestion, but the only other context we have is in the Dalbanna text where it is a bird on the tail of a snake, i.e. Corvus ([[UGA]]) on Hydra ([[MUŠ]]).

InitTeam at 08:21, 16 December 2025

2025-12-16T08:21:12Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 08:21, 16 December 2025
Line 18:		Line 18:
	\|-		\|-
	\|'''Lexical texts.'''		\|'''Lexical texts.'''
	In the Urra XXII series: <sup>mul</sup>mušen = ''iṣ-ṣu-ru'' [Bloch-Horowitz 2015, 111:319ʹ] with variant ''iṣ-ṣur'' [SpTU III, 114A v 59]		In the Urra XXII series: <sup>mul</sup>mušen = ''iṣ-ṣu-ru'' [Bloch-Horowitz 2015<ref>Bloch Y. and W. Horowitz (2015): “Urra = hubullu XXII: The Standard Recension,” with Y. Bloch, Journal of Cuneiform Studies 67: 71-125.</ref>, 111:319ʹ] with variant ''iṣ-ṣur'' [SpTU III<ref>''Špätbabylonische Texte aus Uruk.'' Teil III / Bearb. von Weiher E. von. Berlin, 1988.</ref>, 114A v 59]

	* (a) <sup>mul</sup>mušen = ''iṣ-ṣu-ri'' A / ''iṣ-ṣu-ru'' B [Emar VI/4, 151:179].		* (a) <sup>mul</sup>mušen = ''iṣ-ṣu-ri'' A / ''iṣ-ṣu-ru'' B [Emar VI/4<ref>''D. Arnaud''. Texte de la bibliothèque, transcriptions et traductions, 1987. (= Emar 6/4).</ref>, 151:179].
	\|		\|
	\|-		\|-
Line 54:		Line 54:
	== References ==		== References ==
	* [[References (Babylonian)\|Kurtik's references]]		* [[References (Babylonian)\|Kurtik's references]]

			[[Category:4workWayne]]

	[[Category:Mesopotamian]]		[[Category:Mesopotamian]]

WayneHorowitz at 13:55, 20 November 2025

2025-11-20T13:55:14Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:55, 20 November 2025
Line 1:		Line 1:
	[[File:Hya+crt+crv stellarium mulapin.jpg\|thumb\|Babylonian version of the "Hydra, Corvus" super-constellation, visualized in Stellarium (drawing by Jessica Gullberg).]]		[[File:Hya+crt+crv stellarium mulapin.jpg\|thumb\|Babylonian version of the "Hydra, Corvus" super-constellation, visualized in Stellarium (drawing by Jessica Gullberg).]]
	<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]].		<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. The lexical entry cannot affirm this suggestion, but the only other context we have is in the Dalbanna text where it is a bird on the tail of a snake, i.e. Corvus ([[UGA]]) on Hydra ([[MUŠ]]).

			<s>It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]] (a bird shaped asterism sitting on the tail of a snake).</s>

	~~''But where is it in the Dalbanna text - appropriatge for Corvus or something else????''~~

WayneHorowitz: We need to discuss this one too

2025-11-02T10:42:20Z

We need to discuss this one too

← Older revision		Revision as of 10:42, 2 November 2025
Line 1:		Line 1:
	[[File:Hya+crt+crv stellarium mulapin.jpg\|thumb\|Babylonian version of the "Hydra, Corvus" super-constellation, visualized in Stellarium (drawing by Jessica Gullberg).]]		[[File:Hya+crt+crv stellarium mulapin.jpg\|thumb\|Babylonian version of the "Hydra, Corvus" super-constellation, visualized in Stellarium (drawing by Jessica Gullberg).]]
	<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]].		<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]].

			''But where is it in the Dalbanna text - appropriatge for Corvus or something else????''

InitTeam at 12:11, 19 August 2025

2025-08-19T12:11:58Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 12:11, 19 August 2025
Line 21:		Line 21:
	\|'''Dalbanna-text.'''		\|'''Dalbanna-text.'''
	* §O. MUŠEN (sign ḪU), see (Kurtik m18) [[MAŠ.TAB.BA.TUR.TUR]] where the same dal.ba.an.na pattern is discussed		* §O. MUŠEN (sign ḪU), see (Kurtik m18) [[MAŠ.TAB.BA.TUR.TUR]] where the same dal.ba.an.na pattern is discussed
	\|~~dlb~~. §O comes in three versions. Only one of them has the phrase "head of the Snake-with-Bird". It is obviously a specifier to distinguish one snake from another one without a bird. The dlb-text does not follow the standard language of Mesopotamian mathematical astronomy. Because of this and astronomical reasons, we suggest to interpret the "Snake with Bird" as Hydra+Corvus. MUŠEN would then be identified with Corvus.		\|Dlb.

			* §O comes in three versions. Only one of them has the phrase "head of the Snake-with-Bird". It is obviously a specifier to distinguish one snake from another one without a bird. The dlb-text does not follow the standard language of Mesopotamian mathematical astronomy. Because of this and astronomical reasons, we suggest to interpret the "Snake with Bird" as Hydra+Corvus. MUŠEN would then be identified with Corvus.

	[[File:Leo+vir umzeichng4plani black.png\|thumb\|Leo and Virgo above the MUŠ-Dragon, two claytablet drawings from the Seleucid era (roughly 2nd century BCE), CC BY SMH based upon the drawings by E. Weidner (1967) and Thureau-Dangin (1922).]]		[[File:Leo+vir umzeichng4plani black.png\|thumb\|Leo and Virgo above the MUŠ-Dragon, two claytablet drawings from the Seleucid era (roughly 2nd century BCE), CC BY SMH based upon the drawings by E. Weidner (1967) and Thureau-Dangin (1922).]]
	\|}		\|}
Line 36:		Line 39:
	! scope="col" style="width: 40%;" \| Gössmann (1950)		! scope="col" style="width: 40%;" \| Gössmann (1950)
	\|-		\|-
	\| вар. чтения: <sup>(mul)</sup>ḪU; = iṣṣūru «Птица».		\| вар. чтения: <sup>(mul)</sup>ḪU; = ''iṣṣūru'' «Птица».
	I. Источники.		I. Источники.

	Лексич. тексты. В серии Urra XXII: (a) <sup>mul</sup>mušen = iṣ-ṣu-ri A / iṣ-ṣu-ru B [Emar VI/4, 151:179], (b) <sup>mul</sup>mušen = iṣ-ṣur [SpTU III, 114A v 59], (c) <sup>mul</sup>mušen = iṣ-ṣu-ru [Bloch–Horowitz 2015, 111:319ʹ]. Dalbanna-текст. §O. ḪU, см. m18MAŠ.TAB.BA.TUR.TUR.		Лексич. тексты. В серии Urra XXII: (a) <sup>mul</sup>mušen = ''iṣ-ṣu-ri'' A / ''iṣ-ṣu-ru'' B [Emar VI/4, 151:179], (b) <sup>mul</sup>mušen = ''iṣ-ṣur'' [SpTU III, 114A v 59], (c) <sup>mul</sup>mušen = ''iṣ-ṣu-ru'' [Bloch–Horowitz 2015, 111:319ʹ]. Dalbanna-текст. §O. ḪU, см. m18MAŠ.TAB.BA.TUR.TUR.

	Остается неизвестным местоположение на небе этого созвездия/звезды.		Остается неизвестным местоположение на небе этого созвездия/звезды.

Sushoff at 19:32, 16 August 2025

2025-08-16T19:32:00Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 19:32, 16 August 2025
Line 3:		Line 3:


	==~~Dictionary~~==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
	<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.		<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.

Sushoff at 09:29, 7 August 2025

2025-08-07T09:29:35Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 09:29, 7 August 2025
Line 1:		Line 1:
			[[File:Hya+crt+crv stellarium mulapin.jpg\|thumb\|Babylonian version of the "Hydra, Corvus" super-constellation, visualized in Stellarium (drawing by Jessica Gullberg).]]
	<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]].		<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]].


	==Dictionary==		==Dictionary==
	<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.		<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.

InitTeam at 08:39, 27 July 2025

2025-07-27T08:39:41Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 08:39, 27 July 2025
Line 1:		Line 1:
	<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = ''iṣṣuru,'' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]].		<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = <sup>mul</sup>''iṣṣuru'' (𒀯𒄑𒍮𒊒)'','' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]].
	==Dictionary==		==Dictionary==
	<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.		<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.

Sushoff at 16:11, 7 June 2025

2025-06-07T16:11:27Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 16:11, 7 June 2025
Line 1:		Line 1:
	<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = ''iṣṣuru,'' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation.		<sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN (𒀯𒄷) = ''iṣṣuru,'' 'The Bird' is an ancient Mesopotamian asterism, or perhaps full constellation. It only occurs in rather late texts, and is likely an uninformed description of the constellation now called [[Corvus]], Babylonian [[UGA]].
	==Dictionary==		==Dictionary==
	<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.		<sup>(mul)</sup>''Iṣṣuru,'' the Akkadian parallel to <sup>mul</sup>MUŠEN "bird" literally occurs in the Urra XXII series texts and in the dbn-text.