Phyllon Kissinou - Revision history

IanRidpath: /* Ptolemy's original text: */ Plural

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	=== Ptolemy's original text: ===		=== Ptolemy's original text: ===

	~~Star~~ around Leo outside the constellation:<ref name=":0">Toomer, G.J. (1984). Ptolemy's Almagest, Parlux; Revised ed. edition (19 Oct. 1998)</ref>		Stars around Leo outside the constellation:<ref name=":0">Toomer, G.J. (1984). Ptolemy's Almagest, Parlux; Revised ed. edition (19 Oct. 1998)</ref>

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	==Weblinks==		==Weblinks==
	* Website of the IAU WGSN: https://exopla.net/		* Website of the IAU WGSN: https://exopla.net/
			* Ian Ridpath [http://www.ianridpath.com/startales/comaberenices.html Star Tales Coma Berenices]

	== References ==		== References ==

Sushoff at 06:29, 22 January 2026

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	[[File:IvyLeaf stellarium 2024.jpg\|alt=Ptolemy's "Ivy Leaf" as shape of the "nebulous mass" (star cluster) of Coma Berenices, in Stellarium \|thumb\|Ptolemy's "Ivy Leaf" as shape of the "nebulous mass" (star cluster) of Coma Berenices, in Stellarium ]]Phyllon Kissinou is a name for an asterism in the Almagest star catalogue (137 BCE), basically the open star cluster Melotte 111. The term originates from the phrase "φύλλοv κισσίνου (phyllon kissinou, an ivy leaf)" in Ptolemy's Almagest which was the reason to use the full Greek term as a star name. Contemporary modern astronomers have used the star name "Kissin" for some stars in [[Coma Berenices]]; therefore, it has been suggested to the IAU to make the star name official.		[[File:IvyLeaf stellarium 2024.jpg\|alt=Ptolemy's "Ivy Leaf" as shape of the "nebulous mass" (star cluster) of Coma Berenices, in Stellarium \|thumb\|Ptolemy's "Ivy Leaf" as shape of the "nebulous mass" (star cluster) of Coma Berenices, in Stellarium ]]Phyllon Kissinou is a name for an asterism in the Almagest star catalogue (137 BCE), basically the open star cluster Melotte 111. The term originates from the phrase "φύλλοv κισσίνου (phyllon kissinou, an ivy leaf)" in Ptolemy's Almagest which was the reason to use the full Greek term as a star name. Contemporary modern astronomers have used the star name "Kissin" for some stars in [[Coma Berenices]]; therefore, it has been suggested to the IAU to make the star name official.

Sushoff at 10:29, 19 May 2025

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	His problem is that his catalogue only allows point coordinates but a "nebulous mass" is not described by a point. Hence, he states that there is an extended nebula with the shape of an ivy leaf, which should be drawn by the globe maker so that it contains the three stars listed. Toomer (1984) identifies these stars as 15 (c), 7 (h) and 23 (k) Com. Although only the last one has the term "ivy leaf" in its description, this term refers to an area that encompasses all three (and possibly even more, fainter) stars.		His problem is that his catalogue only allows point coordinates but a "nebulous mass" is not described by a point. Hence, he states that there is an extended nebula with the shape of an ivy leaf, which should be drawn by the globe maker so that it contains the three stars listed. Toomer (1984) identifies these stars as 15 (c), 7 (h) and 23 (k) Com. Although only the last one has the term "ivy leaf" in its description, this term refers to an area that encompasses all three (and possibly even more, fainter) stars.

	== IAU ~~WGSN discussion~~ ==		==IAU Working Group on Star Names==
	In 2023, the name Kissin has been proposed for inclusion in the IAU-Catalog of Star Names due to its occurance in the contemporary literature. Based on ongoing research on the ancient star catalogue, it was proposed using Ptolemy's term "Phyllon kissinou" (the ivy leaf) to name two stars in [[Coma Berenices\|Coma]]. Discussing these suggestions in 2024, the WGSN decided to name only one star with this Greek term and leave more stars unnamed for later naming with other indigenous designations of this cluster.		In 2023, the name Kissin has been proposed for inclusion in the IAU-Catalog of Star Names due to its occurance in the contemporary literature. Based on ongoing research on the ancient star catalogue, it was proposed using Ptolemy's term "Phyllon kissinou" (the ivy leaf) to name two stars in [[Coma Berenices\|Coma]]. Discussing these suggestions in 2024, the WGSN decided to name only one star with this Greek term and leave more stars unnamed for later naming with other indigenous designations of this cluster.

	Following the philologists and historians, the star 23 Com is named Phyllon Kissou.		Following the philologists and historians, the star 23 Com is named Phyllon Kissou.

			The name was adopted by the IAU WGSN on 2024/05/16.

			==Weblinks==
			* Website of the IAU WGSN: https://exopla.net/

	== References ==		== References ==

Sushoff at 07:21, 18 April 2025

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	== IAU WGSN discussion ==		== IAU WGSN discussion ==
	In 2023, the name Kissin has been proposed for inclusion in the IAU-Catalog of Star Names ~~by Eric Mamajek~~ due to its occurance in the contemporary literature. Based on ongoing research on the ancient star catalogue, ~~Susanne M Hoffmann has~~ proposed using Ptolemy's term "Phyllon kissinou" (the ivy leaf) to name two stars in Coma. Discussing these suggestions, the WGSN decided to name only one star with this Greek term and leave more stars unnamed for later naming with other indigenous designations of this cluster.		In 2023, the name Kissin has been proposed for inclusion in the IAU-Catalog of Star Names due to its occurance in the contemporary literature. Based on ongoing research on the ancient star catalogue, it was proposed using Ptolemy's term "Phyllon kissinou" (the ivy leaf) to name two stars in [[Coma Berenices\|Coma]]. Discussing these suggestions in 2024, the WGSN decided to name only one star with this Greek term and leave more stars unnamed for later naming with other indigenous designations of this cluster.

	Following the philologists and historians, the star 23 Com is named Phyllon Kissou.		Following the philologists and historians, the star 23 Com is named Phyllon Kissou.

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Sushoff: /* Modern Usage of the Name */

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Modern Usage of the Name

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	* Rhoads (1971) has "Kissin" for 21 Com, cites the Bright Star Catalog.		* Rhoads (1971) has "Kissin" for 21 Com, cites the Bright Star Catalog.
	* Allen (1899):		* Allen (1899): Hyde cited some ancient codices as applying to Fl. 21, toward the south, the title Kissīn, a species of Ivy, ''Convolvulus'' (bindweed), or perhaps the climbing Dog-rose. This appeared with Ulug Beg, evidently from Ptolemy's κίσσινος, but Ideler said that it was intended to mark c, g, and h, and Baily, that it was for Fl. 21 or 23.
	* Hyde cited some ancient codices as applying to Fl. 21, toward the south, the title Kissīn, a species of Ivy, ''Convolvulus'' (bindweed), or perhaps the climbing Dog-rose. This appeared with Ulug Beg, evidently from Ptolemy's κίσσινος, but Ideler said that it was intended to mark c, g, and h, and Baily, that it was for Fl. 21 or 23.

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	In 2023, the name Kissin has been proposed for inclusion in the IAU-Catalog of Star Names by Eric Mamajek due to its occurance in the contemporary literature. Based on ongoing research on the ancient star catalogue, Susanne M Hoffmann has proposed using Ptolemy's term "Phyllon kissinou" (the ivy leaf) to name two stars in Coma. Discussing these suggestions, the WGSN decided to name only one star with this Greek term and leave more stars unnamed for later naming with other indigenous designations of this cluster.		In 2023, the name Kissin has been proposed for inclusion in the IAU-Catalog of Star Names by Eric Mamajek due to its occurance in the contemporary literature. Based on ongoing research on the ancient star catalogue, Susanne M Hoffmann has proposed using Ptolemy's term "Phyllon kissinou" (the ivy leaf) to name two stars in Coma. Discussing these suggestions, the WGSN decided to name only one star with this Greek term and leave more stars unnamed for later naming with other indigenous designations of this cluster.

	Following the philologists and historians, the star 23 Com is named ~~Phyllonkissou~~.		Following the philologists and historians, the star 23 Com is named Phyllon Kissou.

	== References ==		== References ==

Sushoff at 05:31, 3 August 2024

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	[[File:IvyLeaf stellarium 2024.jpg\|alt=Ptolemy's "Ivy Leaf" as shape of the "nebulous mass" (star cluster) of Coma Berenices, in Stellarium \|thumb\|Ptolemy's "Ivy Leaf" as shape of the "nebulous mass" (star cluster) of Coma Berenices, in Stellarium ]]Phyllon Kissinou is a name for an asterism in the Almagest star catalogue (137 BCE). The term originates from the phrase "φύλλοv κισσίνου (phyllon kissinou, an ivy leaf)" in Ptolemy's Almagest which was the reason to use the full Greek term as a star name. Contemporary modern astronomers have used the star name "Kissin"; therefore, it has been suggested ~~that it be made~~ official.		[[File:IvyLeaf stellarium 2024.jpg\|alt=Ptolemy's "Ivy Leaf" as shape of the "nebulous mass" (star cluster) of Coma Berenices, in Stellarium \|thumb\|Ptolemy's "Ivy Leaf" as shape of the "nebulous mass" (star cluster) of Coma Berenices, in Stellarium ]]Phyllon Kissinou is a name for an asterism in the Almagest star catalogue (137 BCE), basically the open star cluster Melotte 111. The term originates from the phrase "φύλλοv κισσίνου (phyllon kissinou, an ivy leaf)" in Ptolemy's Almagest which was the reason to use the full Greek term as a star name. Contemporary modern astronomers have used the star name "Kissin" for some stars in [[Coma Berenices]]; therefore, it has been suggested to the IAU to make the star name official.

	== Etymology & History ==		== Etymology & History ==