Qedty - Revision history

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 [[File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg|thumb|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy, Upper Egypt, Thebes, Deir el-Medina, Tomb of Ipuy, TT217 (CC0, Charles Wilkinson); epoch: circa 1279–1213 BCE = New Kingdom, Ramesside = Dynasty 19, Reign: reign of Ramesses II]]
 Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.

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Origin of Constellation

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	Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence you should be expecting they should have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.		Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence you should be expecting they should have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.

	In a complete independent analysis, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by Belmonte (2003)<ref>Belmonte, J. A., 2003. The Ramesside star clocks and the ancient Egyptian constellations. In M. Blomberg, P. E. Blomberg and G. Henriksson (Eds.), ''Calendars, Symbols, and Orientations: Legacies of Astronomy in Culture'' (pp. 57–65). ''Uppsala Astronomical Observatory report'', 59. Uppsala Ocarina Books.</ref> in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose in 2004. Both of us independently coincided in our hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after our analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of Cetus for Qed, and an area south of Sagittarius in which Corona Australis (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.		In a complete independent analysis, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by Belmonte (2003)<ref>Belmonte, J. A., 2003. The Ramesside star clocks and the ancient Egyptian constellations. In M. Blomberg, P. E. Blomberg and G. Henriksson (Eds.), ''Calendars, Symbols, and Orientations: Legacies of Astronomy in Culture'' (pp. 57–65). ''Uppsala Astronomical Observatory report'', 59. Uppsala Ocarina Books.</ref> in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose Lull in 2004. Both of us independently coincided in our hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after our analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of [[Cetus]] for Qed, and an area south of [[Sagittarius]] in which [[Corona Australis]] (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.

	So this, among others, is why we published our 2006 paper in JHA together. Table 4.7 is just a final count of 20 years of discussion and analyses.		So this, among others, is why we published our 2006 paper in JHA together. Table 4.7 is just a final count of 20 years of discussion and analyses.

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Image Variants of Fishing Nets

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	File:Fishing with Net (1878) - TIMEA.jpg\|A team of men catching fish with a large net. (Weidenbach 1878)		File:Fishing with Net (1878) - TIMEA.jpg\|A team of men catching fish with a large net. (Weidenbach 1878)
	File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg\|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy (Ramses II)		File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg\|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy (Ramses II)
			File:Tombe-de-Menna.jpg\|On this painting adorning the tomb of Menna, a noble scribe during the reign of Amenhotep III (XVIIIth Dynasty), two Nile perches, fish with delicious flesh, are clearly visible. (image citation from [https://lecomptoirgeneral.com/en/magazine/fishing-culture/article/fishing-in-ancient-egypt/ Comptoir]
			File:AncientEgyptianRiverBoat fishing.jpg\|modern replica for sale, original in the Egyptian Museum in Cairo
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	[[File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg\|thumb\|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy, Upper Egypt, Thebes, Deir el-Medina, Tomb of Ipuy, TT217 (CC0, Charles Wilkinson); epoch: circa 1279–1213 BCE = New Kingdom, Ramesside = Dynasty 19, Reign: reign of Ramesses II]]		[[File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg\|thumb\|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy, Upper Egypt, Thebes, Deir el-Medina, Tomb of Ipuy, TT217 (CC0, Charles Wilkinson); epoch: circa 1279–1213 BCE = New Kingdom, Ramesside = Dynasty 19, Reign: reign of Ramesses II]]
	Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more ~~appealing constellations~~ further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.		Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.

	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
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	Leitz (1995) locates Qed in Alpha Andromedae, which is far too north for a decan.		Leitz (1995) locates Qed in Alpha Andromedae, which is far too north for a decan.

	=== ~~Transfer and Transformation~~ of ~~the Constellation~~ ===		=== Image Variants of Fishing Nets ===
			For a depiction in the tomb of Menna (TT 69), Thebes, tp. Amenhotep III, New Kingdom also see Hartwig (2015)<ref>Hartwig, Melinda. (2015). “Style.” In A Companion to Ancient Egyptian Art, edited by Melinda Hartwig, pp. 39-59. Blackwell Companions to Art History Series. Boston & Oxford: Wiley-Blackwell.</ref>.<gallery>
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	File:Fishing with Net (1878) - TIMEA.jpg\|A team of men catching fish with a large net. (Weidenbach 1878)		File:Fishing with Net (1878) - TIMEA.jpg\|A team of men catching fish with a large net. (Weidenbach 1878)
	File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg\|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy (Ramses II)		File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg\|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy (Ramses II)

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	----Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.		----
			[[File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg\|thumb\|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy, Upper Egypt, Thebes, Deir el-Medina, Tomb of Ipuy, TT217 (CC0, Charles Wilkinson); epoch: circa 1279–1213 BCE = New Kingdom, Ramesside = Dynasty 19, Reign: reign of Ramesses II]]
			Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.

	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
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	~~Example~~.jpg\|~~ancient manuscript 1~~		File:Fishing with Net (1878) - TIMEA.jpg\|A team of men catching fish with a large net. (Weidenbach 1878)
	~~Example~~.~~jpg\|modern mapping by author XY~~		File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg\|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy (Ramses II)
	~~Example~~.~~jpg\|ancient manuscript 2~~
	~~Example~~.~~jpg\|modern mapping by author AB~~
	~~Example~~.jpg\|~~something else ...~~
	</gallery>		</gallery>

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	=== Origin of Constellation ===		=== Origin of Constellation ===
	In the decan star clocks there are two decans called Qed, in singular, and Qedty, in dual. They are far away in RA. One possibly close to Pisces and before Aret, the other possibly to the South of Sagittarius. These are mentioned in NK celestial diagrams but never depicted as constellations.		In the decan star clocks there are two decans called Qed, in singular, and Qedty, in dual. They are far away in RA. One possibly close to [[Pisces]] and before Aret, the other possibly to the South of [[Sagittarius]]. These are mentioned in NK celestial diagrams but never depicted as constellations.

	Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence you should be expecting they should have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.		Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence you should be expecting they should have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.

	In complete independent ~~analyses~~, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by me in ~~my 2003 paper~~ in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose in 2004. Both of us independently coincided in our hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after our analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of Cetus for Qed, and an area south of Sagittarius in which Corona Australis (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.		In a complete independent analysis, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by Belmonte (2003)<ref>Belmonte, J. A., 2003. The Ramesside star clocks and the ancient Egyptian constellations. In M. Blomberg, P. E. Blomberg and G. Henriksson (Eds.), ''Calendars, Symbols, and Orientations: Legacies of Astronomy in Culture'' (pp. 57–65). ''Uppsala Astronomical Observatory report'', 59. Uppsala Ocarina Books.</ref> in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose in 2004. Both of us independently coincided in our hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after our analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of Cetus for Qed, and an area south of Sagittarius in which Corona Australis (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.

	So this, among others, is why we published our 2006 paper in JHA together. Table 4.7 is just a final count of 20 years of discussion and analyses.		So this, among others, is why we published our 2006 paper in JHA together. Table 4.7 is just a final count of 20 years of discussion and analyses.

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	----Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.		----Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.

	~~<here comes a short explanation: what is the earliest known occurance, what does it mean in their culture, perhaps were it stems from if e.g. taken over from other roots...>~~

	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==

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	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
			[[File:Qed+Qedty Belmonte2003.png\|thumb\|Qed+Qedty (Belmonte 2003)]]
	Variants		Variants

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	Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence you should be expecting they should have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.		Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence you should be expecting they should have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.

	In complete independent analyses, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by me in my 2003 paper in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose in 2004. Both of us independently coincided in our hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after our analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of Cetus for Qed, and an area south of Sagittarius in which Corona Australis (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.		In complete independent analyses, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by me in my 2003 paper in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose in 2004. Both of us independently coincided in our hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after our analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of Cetus for Qed, and an area south of Sagittarius in which Corona Australis (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.

	So this, among others, is why we published our 2006 paper in JHA together. Table 4.7 is just a final count of 20 years of discussion and analyses.		So this, among others, is why we published our 2006 paper in JHA together. Table 4.7 is just a final count of 20 years of discussion and analyses.

			Leitz (1995) locates Qed in Alpha Andromedae, which is far too north for a decan.

	=== Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation ===		=== Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation ===