Qedty - Revision history

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	Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. [[Qed]] and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.		Qedty (''ḳdty''), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. [[Qed]] and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.

	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
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	Variants		Variants

	* Qed		* [[Qed]]
	* Qedty		* Qedty

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	Qedty is the 29th decan (Leitz 1995, 89) reads: <blockquote>Der hellste Stern über dem 9. Untergangshorizont ist η Sagittarii (m = 3.1, Spektralklasse M3, d.h. die Farbe ist rot [sic! nicht fürs Auge erkennbar]). Er steht laut Karte etwa 5° über dem Horizont und dürfte dzwischen 3° und 4° Höhe unsichtbar werden. Alle anderen in Frage kommenden Sterne sind mindestens eine Größenklasse schwächer.</blockquote><blockquote>The brightest star above the 9th sunset horizon is η Sagittarii (m = 3.1, spectral class M3, i.e. it is red in colour [sic! not visible to the naked eye]). According to the map, it lies about 5° above the horizon and is likely to become invisible at an altitude of between 3° and 4°. All other stars that might be considered are at least one magnitude fainter.</blockquote>		Qedty is the 29th decan; (Leitz 1995, 89) reads: <blockquote>Der hellste Stern über dem 9. Untergangshorizont ist η Sagittarii (m = 3.1, Spektralklasse M3, d.h. die Farbe ist rot [sic! nicht fürs Auge erkennbar]). Er steht laut Karte etwa 5° über dem Horizont und dürfte dzwischen 3° und 4° Höhe unsichtbar werden. Alle anderen in Frage kommenden Sterne sind mindestens eine Größenklasse schwächer.</blockquote><blockquote>The brightest star above the 9th sunset horizon is η Sagittarii (m = 3.1, spectral class M3, i.e. it is red in colour [sic! not visible to the naked eye]). According to the map, it lies about 5° above the horizon and is likely to become invisible at an altitude of between 3° and 4°. All other stars that might be considered are at least one magnitude fainter.</blockquote>

	==== Image Variants of Fishing Nets ====		==== Image Variants of Fishing Nets ====

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Decan Star Clocks

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	File:EgStarClockSchema_BettinaHoffmann.jpeg\|Schema of Egyptian star clock: how it works (CC BY Bettina Hoffmann).		File:EgStarClockSchema_BettinaHoffmann.jpeg\|Schema of Egyptian star clock: how it works (CC BY Bettina Hoffmann).
	File:Digaonalsternuhr.jpg\|Diagonal star clock in coffins from the Middle Kingdom of Ancient Egypt (Coffin of Nacht, probably from Asyut, 11th/12th Dynasty): Hildesheim, Römer und Pelicäusmuseum.		File:Digaonalsternuhr.jpg\|Diagonal star clock in coffins from the Middle Kingdom of Ancient Egypt (Coffin of Nacht, probably from Asyut, 11th/12th Dynasty): Hildesheim, Römer und Pelicäusmuseum.
	</gallery>		</gallery>Leitz (1995,<ref name=":0">Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> 78) describes a graphical identification method for the decan constellations and says that he basically follows the identifications of Neugebauer and Parker (Astronomische Texte I, 97-100). Yet, on the following pages, Leitz (1995) gives his own arguments, always citing NP but occasionally giving alternatives.


			Qedty is the 29th decan (Leitz 1995, 89) reads: <blockquote>Der hellste Stern über dem 9. Untergangshorizont ist η Sagittarii (m = 3.1, Spektralklasse M3, d.h. die Farbe ist rot [sic! nicht fürs Auge erkennbar]). Er steht laut Karte etwa 5° über dem Horizont und dürfte dzwischen 3° und 4° Höhe unsichtbar werden. Alle anderen in Frage kommenden Sterne sind mindestens eine Größenklasse schwächer.</blockquote><blockquote>The brightest star above the 9th sunset horizon is η Sagittarii (m = 3.1, spectral class M3, i.e. it is red in colour [sic! not visible to the naked eye]). According to the map, it lies about 5° above the horizon and is likely to become invisible at an altitude of between 3° and 4°. All other stars that might be considered are at least one magnitude fainter.</blockquote>

	==== Image Variants of Fishing Nets ====		==== Image Variants of Fishing Nets ====

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	==== Decan Star Clocks ====		==== Decan Star Clocks ====
	Decan star clocks (also "diagonal star clocks") represent one of the earliest known systematic methods of stellar timekeeping, as they are preserved from the Middle Kingdom (2100-1800 BCE). During the night, the successive appearance of decans provided a way to divide the night into approximately twelve parts for the twelve hours of the night. These constellations shift successively, so that the Egyptian schema needs to be read diagonally: every ten days, another constellation is considered to rule the same hour, or in other words, each constellation (decan) rules a different hour depending on the time of the year. Hoffmann (2022)<ref>Hoffmann, S.M. (2022). Comparison of some General Concepts.,in Hoffmann and Wolfschmidt (eds.). Astronomy in Culture – Cultures of Astronomy, tredition Hamburg, 542-560</ref> writes: "The pattern of this systematic shift of constellations through the hours of the day within a year is depicted on Egyptian diagonal star clocks, when the sequence of decans was observed in culmination instead of in rising (Symons 2007<ref>Symons, Sarah (2007), A star's year: the annual cycle in the ancient egyptian sky, in J. M. Steele, ed., `Calendars and Years: Astronomy and Time in the Ancient World', Oxbow, Oxford (UK), pp. 1--33.</ref>), leading to a reduction of deviations throughout the year." <gallery>		Decan star clocks (also "diagonal star clocks")<ref>Leitz, Ch., 1995. Altägyptische Sternuhren. OLA, 62. Leuven: Peeters.</ref> represent one of the earliest known systematic methods of stellar timekeeping, as they are preserved from the Middle Kingdom (2100-1800 BCE). During the night, the successive appearance of decans provided a way to divide the night into approximately twelve parts for the twelve hours of the night. These constellations shift successively, so that the Egyptian schema needs to be read diagonally: every ten days, another constellation is considered to rule the same hour, or in other words, each constellation (decan) rules a different hour depending on the time of the year. Hoffmann (2022)<ref>Hoffmann, S.M. (2022). Comparison of some General Concepts.,in Hoffmann and Wolfschmidt (eds.). Astronomy in Culture – Cultures of Astronomy, tredition Hamburg, 542-560</ref> writes: "The pattern of this systematic shift of constellations through the hours of the day within a year is depicted on Egyptian diagonal star clocks, when the sequence of decans was observed in culmination instead of in rising (Symons 2007<ref>Symons, Sarah (2007), A star's year: the annual cycle in the ancient egyptian sky, in J. M. Steele, ed., `Calendars and Years: Astronomy and Time in the Ancient World', Oxbow, Oxford (UK), pp. 1--33.</ref>), leading to a reduction of deviations throughout the year." <gallery>
	File:EgStarClockSarg_BettinaHoffmann.jpeg\|Schema of Egyptian star clock in a coffin lid (CC BY Bettina Hoffmann).		File:EgStarClockSarg_BettinaHoffmann.jpeg\|Schema of Egyptian star clock in a coffin lid (CC BY Bettina Hoffmann).
	File:EgStarClockSchema_BettinaHoffmann.jpeg\|Schema of Egyptian star clock: how it works (CC BY Bettina Hoffmann).		File:EgStarClockSchema_BettinaHoffmann.jpeg\|Schema of Egyptian star clock: how it works (CC BY Bettina Hoffmann).

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	Leitz (1995) locates Qed in Alpha Andromedae, which is far too north for a decan.		Leitz (1995) locates Qed in Alpha Andromedae, which is far too north for a decan.

	=== Image Variants of Fishing Nets ===		==== Decan Star Clocks ====
			Decan star clocks (also "diagonal star clocks") represent one of the earliest known systematic methods of stellar timekeeping, as they are preserved from the Middle Kingdom (2100-1800 BCE). During the night, the successive appearance of decans provided a way to divide the night into approximately twelve parts for the twelve hours of the night. These constellations shift successively, so that the Egyptian schema needs to be read diagonally: every ten days, another constellation is considered to rule the same hour, or in other words, each constellation (decan) rules a different hour depending on the time of the year. Hoffmann (2022)<ref>Hoffmann, S.M. (2022). Comparison of some General Concepts.,in Hoffmann and Wolfschmidt (eds.). Astronomy in Culture – Cultures of Astronomy, tredition Hamburg, 542-560</ref> writes: "The pattern of this systematic shift of constellations through the hours of the day within a year is depicted on Egyptian diagonal star clocks, when the sequence of decans was observed in culmination instead of in rising (Symons 2007<ref>Symons, Sarah (2007), A star's year: the annual cycle in the ancient egyptian sky, in J. M. Steele, ed., `Calendars and Years: Astronomy and Time in the Ancient World', Oxbow, Oxford (UK), pp. 1--33.</ref>), leading to a reduction of deviations throughout the year." <gallery>
			File:EgStarClockSarg_BettinaHoffmann.jpeg\|Schema of Egyptian star clock in a coffin lid (CC BY Bettina Hoffmann).
			File:EgStarClockSchema_BettinaHoffmann.jpeg\|Schema of Egyptian star clock: how it works (CC BY Bettina Hoffmann).
			File:Digaonalsternuhr.jpg\|Diagonal star clock in coffins from the Middle Kingdom of Ancient Egypt (Coffin of Nacht, probably from Asyut, 11th/12th Dynasty): Hildesheim, Römer und Pelicäusmuseum.
			</gallery>

			==== Image Variants of Fishing Nets ====

	For a depiction in the tomb of Menna (TT 69), Thebes, tp. Amenhotep III, New Kingdom also see Hartwig (2015)<ref>Hartwig, Melinda. (2015). “Style.” In A Companion to Ancient Egyptian Art, edited by Melinda Hartwig, pp. 39-59. Blackwell Companions to Art History Series. Boston & Oxford: Wiley-Blackwell.</ref>.<gallery>		For a depiction in the tomb of Menna (TT 69), Thebes, tp. Amenhotep III, New Kingdom also see Hartwig (2015)<ref>Hartwig, Melinda. (2015). “Style.” In A Companion to Ancient Egyptian Art, edited by Melinda Hartwig, pp. 39-59. Blackwell Companions to Art History Series. Boston & Oxford: Wiley-Blackwell.</ref>.<gallery>
	File:Fishing with Net (1878) - TIMEA.jpg\|A team of men catching fish with a large net. (Weidenbach 1878)		File:Fishing with Net (1878) - TIMEA.jpg\|A team of men catching fish with a large net. (Weidenbach 1878)

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	Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.		Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. [[Qed]] and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.

	==Concordance, Etymology, History==		==Concordance, Etymology, History==
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	In the decan star clocks there are two decans called Qed, in singular, and Qedty, in dual. They are far away in RA. One possibly close to [[Pisces]] and before Aret, the other possibly to the South of [[Sagittarius]]. These are mentioned in NK celestial diagrams but never depicted as constellations.		In the decan star clocks there are two decans called Qed, in singular, and Qedty, in dual. They are far away in RA. One possibly close to [[Pisces]] and before Aret, the other possibly to the South of [[Sagittarius]]. These are mentioned in NK celestial diagrams but never depicted as constellations.

	Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence ~~you should be expecting they should~~ have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.		Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence we expect them to have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.

	In a complete independent analysis, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by Belmonte (2003)<ref>Belmonte, J. A., 2003. The Ramesside star clocks and the ancient Egyptian constellations. In M. Blomberg, P. E. Blomberg and G. Henriksson (Eds.), ''Calendars, Symbols, and Orientations: Legacies of Astronomy in Culture'' (pp. 57–65). ''Uppsala Astronomical Observatory report'', 59. Uppsala Ocarina Books.</ref> in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose Lull in 2004. Both of them independently coincided in their hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after their analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of [[Cetus]] for Qed, and an area south of [[Sagittarius]] in which [[Corona Australis]] (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.		In a complete independent analysis, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by Belmonte (2003)<ref>Belmonte, J. A., 2003. The Ramesside star clocks and the ancient Egyptian constellations. In M. Blomberg, P. E. Blomberg and G. Henriksson (Eds.), ''Calendars, Symbols, and Orientations: Legacies of Astronomy in Culture'' (pp. 57–65). ''Uppsala Astronomical Observatory report'', 59. Uppsala Ocarina Books.</ref> in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose Lull in 2004. Both of them independently coincided in their hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after their analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of [[Cetus]] for Qed, and an area south of [[Sagittarius]] in which [[Corona Australis]] (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.

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	Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence you should be expecting they should have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.		Qed means net, so Qedty means two nets or a pair of nets, and hence you should be expecting they should have a nearly round, circular or enclosed form.

	In a complete independent analysis, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by Belmonte (2003)<ref>Belmonte, J. A., 2003. The Ramesside star clocks and the ancient Egyptian constellations. In M. Blomberg, P. E. Blomberg and G. Henriksson (Eds.), ''Calendars, Symbols, and Orientations: Legacies of Astronomy in Culture'' (pp. 57–65). ''Uppsala Astronomical Observatory report'', 59. Uppsala Ocarina Books.</ref> in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose Lull in 2004. Both of us independently coincided in ~~our~~ hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after ~~our~~ analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of [[Cetus]] for Qed, and an area south of [[Sagittarius]] in which [[Corona Australis]] (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.		In a complete independent analysis, a tentative interpretation on these two decans was given by Belmonte (2003)<ref>Belmonte, J. A., 2003. The Ramesside star clocks and the ancient Egyptian constellations. In M. Blomberg, P. E. Blomberg and G. Henriksson (Eds.), ''Calendars, Symbols, and Orientations: Legacies of Astronomy in Culture'' (pp. 57–65). ''Uppsala Astronomical Observatory report'', 59. Uppsala Ocarina Books.</ref> in MSAIT on the Decans, and simultaneously on his PUV book on "La Astronomía del antiguo Egipto" by Jose Lull in 2004. Both of them independently coincided in their hypothesis for Qed and Qedty after their analyses because they fit in RA within the errors. The pentagonal head of [[Cetus]] for Qed, and an area south of [[Sagittarius]] in which [[Corona Australis]] (quite circular) would be one of the pair Qedty.

	So this, among others, is why we published ~~our 2006~~ paper in JHA together. Table 4.7 is just a final count of 20 years of discussion and analyses.		So this, among others, is why they published a paper in JHA in 2006 together. Table 4.7 is just a final count of 20 years of discussion and analyses.

	Leitz (1995) locates Qed in Alpha Andromedae, which is far too north for a decan.		Leitz (1995) locates Qed in Alpha Andromedae, which is far too north for a decan.

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	== IAU WGSN star name discussion ==		== IAU WGSN star name discussion ==
	The name was suggested for a star in CrA in 2023. It ~~is still under discussion~~.		The name was suggested for a star in CrA in 2023. It was decided in 2026 to name the star δ CrA in [[Corona Australis]] "Qedty". <gallery>
			File:Heryibwia profileCard SadeghFaghanpour-IAU-WGSN.jpg\|link=\|Heryibwia profile card (CC BY M.Sadegh Faghanpour for IAU-WGSN).
			File:Heryibwia stickfigure SadeghFaghanpour-IAU-WGSN.jpg\|link=\|Heryibwia stick figure (CC BY M.Sadegh Faghanpour for IAU-WGSN).
			File:Magur stickfigure SadeghFaghanpour-IAU-WGSN.jpg\|link=\|Babylonian "River Boat" constellation: see [[Magur]].
			File:Kenemu profileCard SadeghFaghanpour-IAU-WGSN.jpg\|link=\|Kenemu profile card (CC BY M.Sadegh Faghanpour for IAU-WGSN).
			File:Kenemu stickfigure SadeghFaghanpour-IAU-WGSN.jpg\|link=\|Kenemu stick figure (CC BY M.Sadegh Faghanpour for IAU-WGSN).
			File:Qedty profileCard SadeghFaghanpour-IAU-WGSN.jpg\|link=\|Qedty profile card (CC BY M.Sadegh Faghanpour for IAU-WGSN).
			File:Qedty stickfigure SadeghFaghanpour-IAU-WGSN.jpg\|link=\|Qedty stick figure (CC BY M.Sadegh Faghanpour for IAU-WGSN).
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	== Weblinks ==		== Weblinks ==

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 [[File:Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy MET eg30.4.120.jpg|thumb|Fishing and Fowling, from the Tomb of Ipuy, Upper Egypt, Thebes, Deir el-Medina, Tomb of Ipuy, TT217 (CC0, Charles Wilkinson); epoch: circa 1279–1213 BCE = New Kingdom, Ramesside = Dynasty 19, Reign: reign of Ramesses II]]
 Qedty (ḳdty), The Two Nets, one of them would be [[Corona Australis]] is an Egyptian name, used in decan star clocks. Qed and Qedty were not present on RSC which used more appealing constellations further north such as Aped and [[Wia]], respectively, to cover the same RA range.

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