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	[[File:Ramus profile stickfigure.jpeg\|thumb\|WGSN star name "Ramus", profile stickfigure, created by M. Sadegh Faghanpour (IAU WGSN).]]		[[File:Ramus profile stickfigure.jpeg\|thumb\|WGSN star name "Ramus", profile stickfigure, created by M. Sadegh Faghanpour (IAU WGSN).]]
	Ramus, the branch or bough, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in [[Hercules]]. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later. Since 2025, "Ramus" is the IAU-star name for 102 Her.		Ramus, the branch or bough, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in [[Hercules]]. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later. Since 2025, "Ramus" is the IAU-star name for 102 Her.

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Mythology

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	According to legend, the apples were guarded by the dragon Ladon, and it was one of the challenges for a hero to defeat this dragon and steal the apples. Heracles was supposed to bring the apples to King Eurystheus, which he managed to do by means of a ruse. He persuaded Atlas, the uncle of the beautiful girls ‘Hesperides’, to pick the apples in their garden (so that neither them nor their dragon would suspect anything), and Heracles, who would have been perceived as a foreign intruder, briefly carried the celestial sphere for Atlas. After Heracles had handed the apples over to King Eurystheus and completed his eleventh feat, the king gave them to the goddess Athena, who returned them to the garden of the Hesperides, where they belonged.		According to legend, the apples were guarded by the dragon Ladon, and it was one of the challenges for a hero to defeat this dragon and steal the apples. Heracles was supposed to bring the apples to King Eurystheus, which he managed to do by means of a ruse. He persuaded Atlas, the uncle of the beautiful girls ‘Hesperides’, to pick the apples in their garden (so that neither them nor their dragon would suspect anything), and Heracles, who would have been perceived as a foreign intruder, briefly carried the celestial sphere for Atlas. After Heracles had handed the apples over to King Eurystheus and completed his eleventh feat, the king gave them to the goddess Athena, who returned them to the garden of the Hesperides, where they belonged.

	In the sky, the figure of Heracles is portrait as if he steped on the dragon's head. This image might be mnemonic but in fact, the constellations of Draco and Hercules were independent creations: Draco is not a representation of Ladon but of Python, the huge serpent that god Apollon killed and buried in Delphi to inspire the oracle. Astronomically, Draco represents the circle around the pole of the ecliptic~~, and~~ Hercules is a Graeco-Roman renaming of an older (and then not understood, foreign) Mesopotamian deity in that area of the sky.		In the sky, the figure of Heracles is portrait as if he steped on the dragon's head. This image might be mnemonic but in fact, the constellations of Draco and Hercules were independent creations: Draco is not a representation of Ladon but of Python, the huge serpent that god Apollon killed and buried in Delphi to inspire the oracle. Astronomically, Draco represents the circle around the pole of the ecliptic. Hercules is a Graeco-Roman renaming of an older (and then not understood, foreign) Mesopotamian deity in that area of the sky, in fact, a Mesopotamian mixture of several even older deities.

	==IAU Working Group on Star Names==		==IAU Working Group on Star Names==

Sushoff at 23:26, 18 July 2025

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	According to legend, the apples were guarded by the dragon Ladon, and it was one of the challenges for a hero to defeat this dragon and steal the apples. Heracles was supposed to bring the apples to King Eurystheus, which he managed to do by means of a ruse. He persuaded Atlas, the uncle of the beautiful girls ‘Hesperides’, to pick the apples in their garden (so that neither them nor their dragon would suspect anything), and Heracles, who would have been perceived as a foreign intruder, briefly carried the celestial sphere for Atlas. After Heracles had handed the apples over to King Eurystheus and completed his eleventh feat, the king gave them to the goddess Athena, who returned them to the garden of the Hesperides, where they belonged.		According to legend, the apples were guarded by the dragon Ladon, and it was one of the challenges for a hero to defeat this dragon and steal the apples. Heracles was supposed to bring the apples to King Eurystheus, which he managed to do by means of a ruse. He persuaded Atlas, the uncle of the beautiful girls ‘Hesperides’, to pick the apples in their garden (so that neither them nor their dragon would suspect anything), and Heracles, who would have been perceived as a foreign intruder, briefly carried the celestial sphere for Atlas. After Heracles had handed the apples over to King Eurystheus and completed his eleventh feat, the king gave them to the goddess Athena, who returned them to the garden of the Hesperides, where they belonged.

			In the sky, the figure of Heracles is portrait as if he steped on the dragon's head. This image might be mnemonic but in fact, the constellations of Draco and Hercules were independent creations: Draco is not a representation of Ladon but of Python, the huge serpent that god Apollon killed and buried in Delphi to inspire the oracle. Astronomically, Draco represents the circle around the pole of the ecliptic, and Hercules is a Graeco-Roman renaming of an older (and then not understood, foreign) Mesopotamian deity in that area of the sky.

	==IAU Working Group on Star Names==		==IAU Working Group on Star Names==

Sushoff at 23:22, 18 July 2025

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	Heracles (Hercules) was an archetypal hero: according to the usual topos, he had to perform numerous heroic deeds to prove himself and atone for past sins.		Heracles (Hercules) was an archetypal hero: according to the usual topos, he had to perform numerous heroic deeds to prove himself and atone for past sins.

	One of his legendary deeds was to steal the ‘golden apples of the Hesperides’ (Ἑσπερίδες, ''Hesperídes''). The goddess of the earth, Gaia, had grown them for the goddess of the sky, Hera, for her wedding to the weather god (and later father of the gods) Zeus. They were therefore a wedding gift from the earth to the sky. The apple tree that bore these apples was located at the westernmost point of the world (geographically, this meant that it was located in different places over the centuries as the Greeks' knowledge of geography grew), and this is also where the Hesperides lived		One of his legendary deeds was to steal the ‘golden apples of the Hesperides’ (Ἑσπερίδες, ''Hesperídes''). The goddess of the earth, Gaia, had grown them for the goddess of the sky, Hera, for her wedding to the weather god (and later father of the gods) Zeus. They were, therefore a wedding gift from the earth to the sky. The apple tree that bore these apples was located at the westernmost point of the world (geographically, this meant that it was located in different places over the centuries as the Greeks' knowledge of geography grew), and this is also where the Hesperides lived (Ἕσπερος ''Hesperos'', a brother of Atlas, who carries the celestial sphere, is also associated with the evening star)''.''

	~~(Ἕσπερος ''Hesperos, a brother of Atlas, who carries the celestial sphere, is also associated with the evening star).''~~		According to legend, the apples were guarded by the dragon Ladon, and it was one of the challenges for a hero to defeat this dragon and steal the apples. Heracles was supposed to bring the apples to King Eurystheus, which he managed to do by means of a ruse. He persuaded Atlas, the uncle of the beautiful girls ‘Hesperides’, to pick the apples in their garden (so that neither them nor their dragon would suspect anything), and Heracles, who would have been perceived as a foreign intruder, briefly carried the celestial sphere for Atlas. After Heracles had handed the apples over to King Eurystheus and completed his eleventh feat, the king gave them to the goddess Athena, who returned them to the garden of the Hesperides, where they belonged.

	According to legend, the apples were guarded by the dragon Ladon, and it was one of the challenges for a hero to defeat this dragon and steal the apples. Heracles was supposed to bring the apples to King Eurystheus, which he managed to do by means of a ruse. He persuaded Atlas, the uncle of the beautiful girls ‘Hesperides’, to pick the apples ~~while they distracted the dragon~~ (so that ~~no one~~ would suspect anything) and Heracles, who would have been perceived as a foreign intruder, briefly carried the celestial sphere for Atlas. After Heracles had handed the apples over to King Eurystheus and completed his eleventh feat, the king gave them to the goddess Athena, who returned them to the garden of the Hesperides, where they belonged.

	==IAU Working Group on Star Names==		==IAU Working Group on Star Names==

Sushoff at 23:20, 18 July 2025

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	==Mythology==		==Mythology==



			Heracles (Hercules) was an archetypal hero: according to the usual topos, he had to perform numerous heroic deeds to prove himself and atone for past sins.

			One of his legendary deeds was to steal the ‘golden apples of the Hesperides’ (Ἑσπερίδες, ''Hesperídes''). The goddess of the earth, Gaia, had grown them for the goddess of the sky, Hera, for her wedding to the weather god (and later father of the gods) Zeus. They were therefore a wedding gift from the earth to the sky. The apple tree that bore these apples was located at the westernmost point of the world (geographically, this meant that it was located in different places over the centuries as the Greeks' knowledge of geography grew), and this is also where the Hesperides lived

			(Ἕσπερος ''Hesperos, a brother of Atlas, who carries the celestial sphere, is also associated with the evening star).''

			According to legend, the apples were guarded by the dragon Ladon, and it was one of the challenges for a hero to defeat this dragon and steal the apples. Heracles was supposed to bring the apples to King Eurystheus, which he managed to do by means of a ruse. He persuaded Atlas, the uncle of the beautiful girls ‘Hesperides’, to pick the apples while they distracted the dragon (so that no one would suspect anything) and Heracles, who would have been perceived as a foreign intruder, briefly carried the celestial sphere for Atlas. After Heracles had handed the apples over to King Eurystheus and completed his eleventh feat, the king gave them to the goddess Athena, who returned them to the garden of the Hesperides, where they belonged.

	==IAU Working Group on Star Names==		==IAU Working Group on Star Names==

Sushoff: added Sadegh's images as test

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added Sadegh's images as test

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	Ramus, the branch or bough, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in [[Hercules]]. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later.		[[File:Ramus profile stickfigure.jpeg\|thumb\|WGSN star name "Ramus", profile stickfigure, created by M. Sadegh Faghanpour (IAU WGSN).]]
			Ramus, the branch or bough, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in [[Hercules]]. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later. Since 2025, "Ramus" is the IAU-star name for 102 Her.
	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==
	Some of the following material is drawn from the "Medieval and Early Modern Europe" discussion on [[Hercules]]:		Some of the following material is drawn from the "Medieval and Early Modern Europe" discussion on [[Hercules]]:
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	==IAU Working Group on Star Names==		==IAU Working Group on Star Names==
			[[File:Ramus profileWGSN.jpg\|alt=WGSN star name profile card\|thumb\|WGSN star name "Ramus", profile card, created by M. Sadegh Faghanpour (IAU WGSN).]]
	The names "Cerberus" and "Ramus" (or combinations) were suggested to WGSN in 2023. The name "Cerberus" is already in use by the IAU for asteroid (1865) Cerberus, and the spelling variant Kerberos was adopted by the IAU for the satellite (134340) Pluto IV, discovered in 2011. The name "Ramus" was adopted for 102 Her in June 2025.		The names "Cerberus" and "Ramus" (or combinations) were suggested to WGSN in 2023. The name "Cerberus" is already in use by the IAU for asteroid (1865) Cerberus, and the spelling variant Kerberos was adopted by the IAU for the satellite (134340) Pluto IV, discovered in 2011. The name "Ramus" was adopted for 102 Her in June 2025.

IanRidpath at 17:28, 17 June 2025

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	Ramus, ~~The Apple~~, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in [[Hercules]]. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later.		Ramus, the branch or bough, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in [[Hercules]]. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later.
	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==
	Some of the following material is drawn from the "Medieval and Early Modern Europe" discussion on [[Hercules]]:		Some of the following material is drawn from the "Medieval and Early Modern Europe" discussion on [[Hercules]]:

Sushoff: /* IAU Working Group on Star Names */

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	==IAU Working Group on Star Names==		==IAU Working Group on Star Names==

	The name "Cerberus" is already in use by the IAU for asteroid (1865) Cerberus, and the spelling variant Kerberos was adopted by the IAU for the satellite (134340) Pluto IV, discovered in 2011. The name "Ramus" ~~is being considered by WGSN~~ for ~~one of the stars~~ in ~~the vicinity of this asterism~~.		The names "Cerberus" and "Ramus" (or combinations) were suggested to WGSN in 2023. The name "Cerberus" is already in use by the IAU for asteroid (1865) Cerberus, and the spelling variant Kerberos was adopted by the IAU for the satellite (134340) Pluto IV, discovered in 2011. The name "Ramus" was adopted for 102 Her in June 2025.

	== Weblinks ==		== Weblinks ==

Sushoff at 08:58, 12 June 2025

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	Ramus, The Apple, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in Hercules. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later.		Ramus, The Apple, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in [[Hercules]]. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later.

	~~#REDIRECT [[Hercules]]~~
	==Etymology and History==		==Etymology and History==
	Some of the following material is drawn from the "Medieval and Early Modern Europe" discussion on [[Hercules]]:		Some of the following material is drawn from the "Medieval and Early Modern Europe" discussion on [[Hercules]]:

Sushoff: /* Stars in "Cerberus et Ramus" */

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Stars in "Cerberus et Ramus"

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	Ramus, The Apple, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in Hercules.		Ramus, The Apple, is an addition to the early modern asterism Cerberus in Hercules. The name occurs in Bayer (1603) as a term but in depiction only later.

	#REDIRECT [[Hercules]]		#REDIRECT [[Hercules]]
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	=== Stars in "Cerberus et Ramus" ===		=== Stars in "Cerberus et Ramus" ===

	Cerberus et Ramus is dominated by approximately 14 stars brighter than 6th magnitude, of which 4 dominate which are brighter than V magnitude 4.5. In order of brightness, they are:		Cerberus et Ramus is dominated by approximately 14 stars brighter than 6th magnitude, of which 4 dominate which are brighter than V magnitude 4.5. In order of brightness, they are:
	~~109 Her (HIP 90139, HD 169414, HR 6895; Vmag = 3.85, K2III, d = 37pc),~~
	~~110 Her (HIP 92043, HD 173667, HR 7061; Vmag = 4.19, F5.5IV-V, d = 19pc),~~
	~~111 Her (HIP 92161, HD 173880, HR 7069; Vmag = 4.34, A3IV, d = 29pc),~~
	~~102 Her (HIP 88886, HD 166182, HR 6787; Vmag = 4.37, B2IV, d = 357pc).~~

			* 109 Her (HIP 90139, HD 169414, HR 6895; Vmag = 3.85, K2III, d = 37pc),
			* 110 Her (HIP 92043, HD 173667, HR 7061; Vmag = 4.19, F5.5IV-V, d = 19pc),
			* 111 Her (HIP 92161, HD 173880, HR 7069; Vmag = 4.34, A3IV, d = 29pc),
			* 102 Her (HIP 88886, HD 166182, HR 6787; Vmag = 4.37, B2IV, d = 357pc).

	==Mythology==		==Mythology==