Taimin and Shaomin - Revision history

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	Taimin太民 (or Damin大民) for o Leo and Shaomin少民 (ρ Leo) are the two southernmost stars of the [[Xuanyuan\|Xuanyuan轩辕]] constellation. They used to star names in ancient China.		Taimin太民 (or Damin大民) for o Leo and Shaomin少民 (ρ Leo) are the two southernmost stars of the [[Xuanyuan\|Xuanyuan轩辕]] constellation. They used to star names in ancient China.
	[[File:Taimin and Shaomin on Suzhou star map.jpg\|thumb\|Taimin and Shaomin on Suzhou star map]]		[[File:Taimin and Shaomin on Suzhou star map.jpg\|thumb\|Taimin and Shaomin on Suzhou star map]]

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	From the perspective of Xuanyuan the dragon itself, omi Leo as the left horn (Taimin) and rho Leo as the right horn (Shaomin) is very natural. However, from the viewpoint of an observer within the celestial sphere, Shaomin is actually on the left (east) and Taimin on the right (west). This may be the reason why the positions of Taimin and Shaomin were later swapped, as shown in the Suzhou astronomical chart. <gallery widths="200" heights="200" perrow="2" caption="Taimin and Shaomin">		From the perspective of Xuanyuan the dragon itself, omi Leo as the left horn (Taimin) and rho Leo as the right horn (Shaomin) is very natural. However, from the viewpoint of an observer within the celestial sphere, Shaomin is actually on the left (east) and Taimin on the right (west). This may be the reason why the positions of Taimin and Shaomin were later swapped, as shown in the Suzhou astronomical chart. <gallery widths="200" heights="200" perrow="3" caption="Taimin and Shaomin">
	File:Taimin and Shaomin on Suzhou star map.jpg\|Taimin and Shaomin on Suzhou star map		File:Taimin and Shaomin on Suzhou star map.jpg\|Taimin and Shaomin on Suzhou star map (1247)
	File:Taimin and Shaomin on Qing star map.jpg\|Taimin and Shaomin on Qing star map		File:Taimin and Shaomin on Qing star map.jpg\|Taimin and Shaomin on Qing star map
	File:Taimin & Shaomin.jpeg\|Taimin & Shaomin in Stellarium		File:Taimin & Shaomin.jpeg\|Taimin & Shaomin in Stellarium

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	File:Taimin and Shaomin on Qing star map.jpg\|Taimin and Shaomin on Qing star map		File:Taimin and Shaomin on Qing star map.jpg\|Taimin and Shaomin on Qing star map
			File:Taimin & Shaomin.jpeg\|Taimin & Shaomin in Stellarium
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	The Suzhou chart mistakenly recorded Shaomin as Shangmin上民, which was further erroneously written as Tumin土民 in the Qing dynasty star map.		The Suzhou chart mistakenly recorded Shaomin as Shangmin上民, which was further erroneously written as Tumin土民 in the Qing dynasty star map.

	* Taiming = Taimin = Daming		* Taiming = Taimin = Daming = Damin
	* Shaoming = Shaomin = Tumin = Shangmin		* Shaoming = Shaomin = Tumin = Shangmin

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	The Suzhou chart mistakenly recorded Shaomin as Shangmin上民, which was further erroneously written as Tumin土民 in the Qing dynasty star map.		The Suzhou chart mistakenly recorded Shaomin as Shangmin上民, which was further erroneously written as Tumin土民 in the Qing dynasty star map.

	* ~~Taoming~~ = ~~Taomin~~ = Daming ~~= Taiming~~		* Taiming = Taimin = Daming
	* Shaoming = Shaomin = Tumin = Shangmin		* Shaoming = Shaomin = Tumin = Shangmin

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	\|~~Taomin~~		\|Taimin
	\|o Leo		\|o Leo
	\|o Leo		\|o Leo

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	== Etymology & History of the term ==		== Etymology & History of the term ==
	The shape of Xuanyuan resembles a Chinese dragon, and these two stars are considered the left and right horns of the dragon. The specific meanings of Taimin and Shaomin are difficult to determine. However, according to the Western Han dynasty's ''Shi School Star Canon''(石氏星经), they were referred to as Taiming太明 (or Daming大明, both means "more bright") and Shaoming少明(means "less bright").<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Beijing: Jiuzhou Press, 2012:643-644.</ref> Literally, Taiming should be brighter than Shaoming, which is indeed the case:		The shape of [[Xuanyuan]] resembles a Chinese dragon, and these two stars are considered the left and right horns of the dragon. The specific meanings of Taimin and Shaomin are difficult to determine. However, according to the Western Han dynasty's ''Shi School Star Canon''(石氏星经), they were referred to as Taiming太明 (or Daming大明, both means "more bright") and Shaoming少明(means "less bright").<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Beijing: Jiuzhou Press, 2012:643-644.</ref> Literally, Taiming should be brighter than Shaoming, which is indeed the case:

	* Taiming is omicron Leonis (o Leo) with a magnitude of 3.5, while		* Taiming is omicron Leonis (o Leo) with a magnitude of 3.5, while
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	\|Taomin		\|Taomin
	\|x		\|o Leo
	\|x		\|o Leo
	\|x		\|o Leo
	\|x		\|o Leo
	\|x		\|o Leo
	\|x		\|o Leo
	\|x		\|o Leo
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	\|Shaomin		\|Shaomin
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	\|ρ Leo		\|ρ Leo
	\| ρ Leo		\| ρ Leo
	\|o Leo		\|ρ Leo
	\|}		\|}
	== Images and Transformation ==		== Images and Transformation ==