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	The earliest attestation of this asterism is found in the ''Shishi xingjing'' (Star Canon of Master Shi), compiled in the late 2nd century BCE—though some scholars argue that the canon originates in the 4th century BCE. Prior to the Tang dynasty (618-907), extant star maps and official histories refer to it simply as "Tian Jiangjun" (天将军, "Celestial General"), whereas the ''Shishi xingjing'' employs both "Tian Jiangjun" and "Tian Dajiangjun." From the Song dynasty (960-1279) onward, the longer form “Tian Dajiangjun” became more prevalent.		The earliest attestation of this asterism is found in the ''Shishi xingjing'' (Star Canon of Master Shi), compiled in the late 2nd century BCE—though some scholars argue that the canon originates in the 4th century BCE. Prior to the Tang dynasty (618-907), extant star maps and official histories refer to it simply as "Tian Jiangjun" (天将军, "Celestial General"), whereas the ''Shishi xingjing'' employs both "Tian Jiangjun" and "Tian Dajiangjun." From the Song dynasty (960-1279) onward, the longer form “Tian Dajiangjun” became more prevalent.

	Despite variations in nomenclature, the ''Shishi xingjing'' clearly identifies this asterism as representing "the Grand General in Heaven" (天之大将军也).<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> The term ''dajiangjun'' (“Grand General”) emerged in late time of the Warring States period (~~475 -221~~ BCE) to distinguish a commander-in-chief from subordinate generals, while ''shangjiangjun'' (上将军, "High General") appears to have been more common at the time. At the early time of Emperor Wu of Han (r. ~~141 – 87~~ BCE), ''dajiangjun'' was institutionalized as an official title, ranking alongside the Prime Minister but often wielding greater de facto authority, effectively making the Grand General the highest-ranking official beneath the emperor himself.<ref>An Zuozhang, Xiong Tieji. ''Qin Han Guanzhi Shigao'' (Draft History of Qin and Han Dynasty Official Systems). Jinan: Qilu shushe, 2007: 233-251.</ref> Accordingly, the designation of a celestial “Grand General” is more plausibly a development of the post-reform Han imperial system.		Despite variations in nomenclature, the ''Shishi xingjing'' clearly identifies this asterism as representing "the Grand General in Heaven" (天之大将军也).<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> The term ''dajiangjun'' (“Grand General”) emerged in late time of the Warring States period (475–221 BCE) to distinguish a commander-in-chief from subordinate generals, while ''shangjiangjun'' (上将军, "High General") appears to have been more common at the time. At the early time of Emperor Wu of Han (r. 141–87 BCE), ''dajiangjun'' was institutionalized as an official title, ranking alongside the Prime Minister but often wielding greater de facto authority, effectively making the Grand General the highest-ranking official beneath the emperor himself.<ref>An Zuozhang, Xiong Tieji. ''Qin Han Guanzhi Shigao'' (Draft History of Qin and Han Dynasty Official Systems). Jinan: Qilu shushe, 2007: 233-251.</ref> Accordingly, the designation of a celestial “Grand General” is more plausibly a development of the post-reform Han imperial system.

	The Eastern Han scholar Xi Meng (郗萌) once mentioned a related asterism, ''Tianjiangjun qi'' (天将军旗, “The Banner of the Celestial General”), said to be located beside ''Tian Jiangjun''.<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> However, further details about this configuration have been lost.		The Eastern Han scholar Xi Meng (郗萌) once mentioned a related asterism, ''Tianjiangjun qi'' (天将军旗, “The Banner of the Celestial General”), said to be located beside ''Tian Jiangjun''.<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> However, further details about this configuration have been lost.
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	\|~~gamma~~ 1 And		\|Gamma 1 And
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	\|~~gamma~~ 1 And		\|Gamma 1 And
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	{{DISPLAYTITLE:Tian Dajiangjun (天大将军)}}		{{DISPLAYTITLE:Tian Dajiangjun (天大将军)}}
	{{distinguish\|Dajiangjunbei}}		{{distinguish\|Dajiangjunbei}}
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	[[File:Tiandajiangjun on Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido.jpg\|thumb\|Tian Dajiangjun on ''Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido'' Star Chart]]'''Tian Dajiangjun''' (天大将军, “Celestial Grand General”) is a Chinese star name that traditionally comprises 11 stars, although some sources record 12.		[[File:Tiandajiangjun on Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido.jpg\|thumb\|Tian Dajiangjun on ''Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido'' Star Chart]]'''Tian Dajiangjun''' (天大将军, “Celestial Grand General”) is a Chinese star name that traditionally comprises 11 stars, although some sources record 12.

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	{{DISPLAYTITLE:Tian Dajiangjun (天大将军)}}		{{DISPLAYTITLE:Tian Dajiangjun (天大将军)}}
			{{distinguish\|Dajiangjunbei}}
	[[File:Tiandajiangjun on Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido.jpg\|thumb\|Tian Dajiangjun on ''Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido'' Star Chart]]'''Tian Dajiangjun''' (天大将军, “Celestial Grand General”) is a Chinese star name that traditionally comprises 11 stars, although some sources record 12.		[[File:Tiandajiangjun on Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido.jpg\|thumb\|Tian Dajiangjun on ''Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido'' Star Chart]]'''Tian Dajiangjun''' (天大将军, “Celestial Grand General”) is a Chinese star name that traditionally comprises 11 stars, although some sources record 12.

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	{{DISPLAYTITLE:Tian Dajiangjun (天大将军)}}		{{DISPLAYTITLE:Tian Dajiangjun (天大将军)}}

	'''Tian Dajiangjun''' (天大将军, “Celestial Grand General”) is a Chinese star name that traditionally comprises 11 stars, although some sources record 12.		[[File:Tiandajiangjun on Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido.jpg\|thumb\|Tian Dajiangjun on ''Cheonsang Yeolcha Bunyajido'' Star Chart]]'''Tian Dajiangjun''' (天大将军, “Celestial Grand General”) is a Chinese star name that traditionally comprises 11 stars, although some sources record 12.

	== Etymology and History ==		== Etymology and History ==

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	== Star Name Discussion (IAU) ==		== Star Name Discussion (IAU) ==
	In ~~202x~~, the name of the historical constellation "~~xxx~~" was suggested to be used for one of the stars in this constellation~~. ..~~.		In 2025, the name of the historical constellation "Tiandajiangjun" was suggested to be used for one of the stars in this constellation.

	Decision: ...		Decision: It was decided to name the northernmost star of the chain "[[Dajiangjunbei]]".

	== References ==		== References ==

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	== Etymology and History ==		== Etymology and History ==
	The earliest attestation of this asterism is found in the ''Shishi xingjing'' (Star Canon of Master Shi), compiled in the late 2nd century BCE—though some scholars argue that the canon ~~origins~~ in the 4th century BCE. Prior to the Tang dynasty (618-907), extant star maps and official histories refer to it simply as "Tian Jiangjun" (天将军, "Celestial General"), whereas the ''Shishi xingjing'' employs both "Tian Jiangjun" and "Tian Dajiangjun." From the Song dynasty (960-1279) onward, the longer form “Tian Dajiangjun” became more prevalent.		The earliest attestation of this asterism is found in the ''Shishi xingjing'' (Star Canon of Master Shi), compiled in the late 2nd century BCE—though some scholars argue that the canon originates in the 4th century BCE. Prior to the Tang dynasty (618-907), extant star maps and official histories refer to it simply as "Tian Jiangjun" (天将军, "Celestial General"), whereas the ''Shishi xingjing'' employs both "Tian Jiangjun" and "Tian Dajiangjun." From the Song dynasty (960-1279) onward, the longer form “Tian Dajiangjun” became more prevalent.

	Despite variations in nomenclature, the ''Shishi xingjing'' clearly identifies this asterism as representing "the Grand General in Heaven" (天之大将军也).<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> The term ''dajiangjun'' (“Grand General”) emerged in late time of the Warring States (475 -221 BCE) ~~period~~ to distinguish a commander-in-chief from subordinate generals, while ''shangjiangjun'' (上将军, "High General") appears to have been more common at the time. At early time of Emperor Wu of Han (r. 141 – 87 BCE), ''dajiangjun'' was institutionalized as an official title, ranking alongside the Prime Minister but often wielding greater de facto authority, effectively making the Grand General the highest-ranking official beneath the emperor himself.<ref>An Zuozhang, Xiong Tieji. ''Qin Han Guanzhi Shigao'' (Draft History of Qin and Han Dynasty Official Systems). Jinan: Qilu shushe, 2007: 233-251.</ref> Accordingly, the designation of a celestial “Grand General” is more plausibly a development of the post-reform Han imperial system.		Despite variations in nomenclature, the ''Shishi xingjing'' clearly identifies this asterism as representing "the Grand General in Heaven" (天之大将军也).<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> The term ''dajiangjun'' (“Grand General”) emerged in late time of the Warring States period (475 -221 BCE) to distinguish a commander-in-chief from subordinate generals, while ''shangjiangjun'' (上将军, "High General") appears to have been more common at the time. At the early time of Emperor Wu of Han (r. 141 – 87 BCE), ''dajiangjun'' was institutionalized as an official title, ranking alongside the Prime Minister but often wielding greater de facto authority, effectively making the Grand General the highest-ranking official beneath the emperor himself.<ref>An Zuozhang, Xiong Tieji. ''Qin Han Guanzhi Shigao'' (Draft History of Qin and Han Dynasty Official Systems). Jinan: Qilu shushe, 2007: 233-251.</ref> Accordingly, the designation of a celestial “Grand General” is more plausibly a development of the post-reform Han imperial system.

	The Eastern Han scholar Xi Meng (郗萌) once mentioned a related asterism, ''Tianjiangjun qi'' (天将军旗, “The Banner of the Celestial General”), said to be located beside ''Tian Jiangjun''.<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> However, further details about this configuration have been lost.		The Eastern Han scholar Xi Meng (郗萌) once mentioned a related asterism, ''Tianjiangjun qi'' (天将军旗, “The Banner of the Celestial General”), said to be located beside ''Tian Jiangjun''.<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> However, further details about this configuration have been lost.

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	== ~~Referencesedit source~~ ==		== References ==
	[[References (Chinese)]]		[[References (Chinese)]]

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	'''Tian Dajiangjun''' (天大将军, “Celestial Grand General”) is a Chinese star name that traditionally comprises 11 stars, although some sources record 12.		'''Tian Dajiangjun''' (天大将军, “Celestial Grand General”) is a Chinese star name that traditionally comprises 11 stars, although some sources record 12.

	== ~~Contents ==~~		== Etymology and History ==

	* [[Pattern:ChinDict#Etymology~~%20and%20History\|1Etymology~~ and History]]
	** [[Pattern:ChinDict#Identification%20of%20stars\|1.1Identification of stars]]
	** [[Pattern:ChinDict#Maps%20(Gallery)\|1.2Maps (Gallery)]]
	* [[Pattern:ChinDict#Star%20Name%20Discussion%20(IAU)\|2Star Name Discussion (IAU)]]
	* [[Pattern:ChinDict#References\|3References]]

	~~== Etymology and History source~~ ==
	The earliest attestation of this asterism is found in the ''Shishi xingjing'' (Star Canon of Master Shi), compiled in the late 2nd century BCE—though some scholars argue that the canon origins in the 4th century BCE. Prior to the Tang dynasty (618-907), extant star maps and official histories refer to it simply as "Tian Jiangjun" (天将军, "Celestial General"), whereas the ''Shishi xingjing'' employs both "Tian Jiangjun" and "Tian Dajiangjun." From the Song dynasty (960-1279) onward, the longer form “Tian Dajiangjun” became more prevalent.		The earliest attestation of this asterism is found in the ''Shishi xingjing'' (Star Canon of Master Shi), compiled in the late 2nd century BCE—though some scholars argue that the canon origins in the 4th century BCE. Prior to the Tang dynasty (618-907), extant star maps and official histories refer to it simply as "Tian Jiangjun" (天将军, "Celestial General"), whereas the ''Shishi xingjing'' employs both "Tian Jiangjun" and "Tian Dajiangjun." From the Song dynasty (960-1279) onward, the longer form “Tian Dajiangjun” became more prevalent.

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	The Eastern Han scholar Xi Meng (郗萌) once mentioned a related asterism, ''Tianjiangjun qi'' (天将军旗, “The Banner of the Celestial General”), said to be located beside ''Tian Jiangjun''.<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> However, further details about this configuration have been lost.		The Eastern Han scholar Xi Meng (郗萌) once mentioned a related asterism, ''Tianjiangjun qi'' (天将军旗, “The Banner of the Celestial General”), said to be located beside ''Tian Jiangjun''.<ref>Qutan Xida. Kaiyuanzhanjing 开元占经. Jiuzhou Press, P. 636.</ref> However, further details about this configuration have been lost.

	=== Identification of stars ~~source~~ ===		=== Identification of stars ===
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	=== Maps (Gallery)~~edit source~~ ===		=== Maps (Gallery) ===
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	== Star Name Discussion (IAU)~~edit source~~ ==		== Star Name Discussion (IAU) ==
	In 202x, the name of the historical constellation "xxx" was suggested to be used for one of the stars in this constellation. ...		In 202x, the name of the historical constellation "xxx" was suggested to be used for one of the stars in this constellation. ...

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	== Referencesedit source ==		== Referencesedit source ==
	[[References (Chinese)]]		[[References (Chinese)]]



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