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Kemenu (... ), [translation] ... ... is an Egyptian name, used in RSC/ ... .
Kemenu (... 𓈖...𓅓 𓅱), Crew, is an Egyptian constellation of three stars ρ Sgr - 44 Sgr, <s>used in Ramesside Star Clocks (RSC)</s>.  
 
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==Concordance, Etymology, History==
==Concordance, Etymology, History==
What does the term mean, does it always have the same meaning - was it changed over time.
=== Origin of Constellation ===
=== Origin of Constellation ===
Juan, what is the origin here - is that in the RSC??? 


=== Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation ===
=== Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation ===
 
There is no identification of this constellation in Neugebauer and Parker, or in Leitz (1995), as their works focused on the so-called decan-constellation (further south). 
<gallery>
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Example.jpg|ancient manuscript 1
File:Tumba de Ramsés V y de Ramsés VI, Valle de las Reyes, Luxor, Egipto, 2022-04-03, DD 69.jpg|Tombs of Ramses V and VI (Diego Delso).
Example.jpg|modern mapping by author XY
File:Lepsius-228-III-ramsèsVI-détail.jpg|Schema of a Ramesside Star Clock (Fonctionnement d'une horloge ramesside.) from Karl Richard Lepsius - Denkmäler aus Ägypten und Äthiopien: Nach den Zeichnungen der von Seiner Majestät dem Könige von Preussen Friedrich Wilhelm IV nach diesen Ländern gesendeten und in den Jahren 1842-1845 ausgeführten wissenschaftlichen Expedition.
Example.jpg|ancient manuscript 2
File:Culmination-horloge-ramesside.jpg|Explanation of Ramesside Star Clock by Frank Monnier
Example.jpg|modern mapping by author AB
File:The tomb of Seti I 6.jpg|Tomb of Sethy I - front (CC BY Leon Petrosyan)
Example.jpg|something else ...  
File:Ramses IX - fig6.gif|Tomb of Ramses IX with a RSC, detail photograph by J. Belmonte.
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</gallery>


== Religion/ Tales/ Mythology ==
== Religion/ Tales/ Mythology ==
mnemonic tales and cultural significance
mnemonic tales and cultural significance
== IAU WGSN star name discussion ==
The name was proposed to WGSN in 2025. As Kemenu means something as "crew", we are not sure if it would be appropriate for a single star. Juan Belmonte suggests to look for any pair of closing stars or a star which is multiple (not to the naked eye) in the area east of Kaus Australis, as in that case, it may suit. Therefore, we pick  HIP 89637 is 6.03 mag in V.


== Weblinks ==
== Weblinks ==

Latest revision as of 18:14, 5 July 2026

Authors: Susanne M Hoffmann

Image that shows the earliest map or drawing
Image that shows the cultural object (e.g. in archaeological museum)

Kemenu (... 𓈖...𓅓 𓅱), Crew, is an Egyptian constellation of three stars ρ Sgr - 44 Sgr, used in Ramesside Star Clocks (RSC).

Concordance, Etymology, History

Origin of Constellation

Juan, what is the origin here - is that in the RSC???

Transfer and Transformation of the Constellation

There is no identification of this constellation in Neugebauer and Parker, or in Leitz (1995), as their works focused on the so-called decan-constellation (further south).

  • Tombs of Ramses V and VI (Diego Delso).
    Tombs of Ramses V and VI (Diego Delso).
  • Schema of a Ramesside Star Clock (Fonctionnement d'une horloge ramesside.) from Karl Richard Lepsius - Denkmäler aus Ägypten und Äthiopien: Nach den Zeichnungen der von Seiner Majestät dem Könige von Preussen Friedrich Wilhelm IV nach diesen Ländern gesendeten und in den Jahren 1842-1845 ausgeführten wissenschaftlichen Expedition.
    Schema of a Ramesside Star Clock (Fonctionnement d'une horloge ramesside.) from Karl Richard Lepsius - Denkmäler aus Ägypten und Äthiopien: Nach den Zeichnungen der von Seiner Majestät dem Könige von Preussen Friedrich Wilhelm IV nach diesen Ländern gesendeten und in den Jahren 1842-1845 ausgeführten wissenschaftlichen Expedition.
  • Explanation of Ramesside Star Clock by Frank Monnier
    Explanation of Ramesside Star Clock by Frank Monnier
  • Tomb of Sethy I - front (CC BY Leon Petrosyan)
    Tomb of Sethy I - front (CC BY Leon Petrosyan)
  • Tomb of Ramses IX with a RSC, detail photograph by J. Belmonte.
    Tomb of Ramses IX with a RSC, detail photograph by J. Belmonte.

Religion/ Tales/ Mythology

mnemonic tales and cultural significance

IAU WGSN star name discussion

The name was proposed to WGSN in 2025. As Kemenu means something as "crew", we are not sure if it would be appropriate for a single star. Juan Belmonte suggests to look for any pair of closing stars or a star which is multiple (not to the naked eye) in the area east of Kaus Australis, as in that case, it may suit. Therefore, we pick HIP 89637 is 6.03 mag in V.

References

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